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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by titan m View Post
    TS seems mad but is it about fighters getting accused of using steroids with no proof or is it just a "leave Pacquiao alone" thing?

    Its true there is no proof Pacquiao was on anything but same goes for Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather, Matthysse, Garcia, Porter and the list goes on and on but no mention of any of those guys.

    If you've been around here so long you should know its common knowledge that people on this forum have been accusing every fighter of being dirty for years now and don't give them credit for their victories and talk about them like they are garbage, meanwhile some retired fighters who were actually caught using HGH or steroids are highly praised.

    There is no point in arguing over it though because you have fans of different fighters who label you with some childish name if you say something positive about a fighter they hate or if you say something negative about a fighter they love, its almost impossible to have an actual conversation without it some idiots chiming in with the insults and childish **** because that's all they really know.
    I get your point but I ask, when did the bold look to set their dates, change the entire testing procedure, wait 3 years to actually undergo random drug testing, especially after his refusal was on the spotlight, again I ask when did that happen? It hasn't, so where the fuck people get this idea that Pacquiao is being singled out more than the rest for no apparent reason? There is so much material with Manny.

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    • #52
      Here is what I said to Pauli last night on twitter. "@PaulMalignaggi Pauli preaching it, too bad he hasn't practiced it."

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      • #53
        None. Have not seen PAC grow any abnormal muscle, tremendous power or speed at 147. PAC was faster, vascular and had mor definition muscle wise t 130-135. At 140-147 he retained more water. The only weight he was able to bring his lower weight power was at 140. The rest of his fights were won by repeatedly pounding his opponents losing a third of his speed from 130-135 but carried his stamina and work rate. Now a bit older a bit slower but nonetheless still too much for Floyd.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Had he simply agreed to take the tests, the fight wouldn't have fallen through and there would be no need for the rest of the crap.
          You claim that asking for a cutoff is refusing. Therefore what do you call what Floyd requested which was a 21 day cutoff?

          Once again...nobody refused a test. I believe in the beginning it had more to do with the way Floyd approached the entire issue by first accusing Pac of being a roiding cheater. TR saw it as "who the hell is Floyd to blast Pac for being a cheater then demand he take tests" It was more of an ego thing than anything else.

          The past is the past and Pac is now willing to accept a smaller slice of the pie and full OSTD. Floyd on the other hand has now demanded that

          Pac leave Arum first

          Join TMT and give Floyd fights under his banner first

          Called Pac desperate for willing to accept less for a fight

          etc....

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
            I get your point but I ask, when did the bold look to set their dates, change the entire testing procedure, wait 3 years to actually undergo random drug testing, especially after his refusal was on the spotlight, again I ask when did that happen? It hasn't, so where the fuck people get this idea that Pacquiao is being singled out more than the rest for no apparent reason? There is so much material with Manny.
            I think you may have missed my point though, It seemed to me TS is just upset when its Pacquiao that is accused but for people who are on this site a lot its obvious that everybody is getting accused around here, so you cant be sour when your favorite fighter is accused with no solid evidence but at the same time be ok with it when its happening to a fighter you don't like.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
              You claim that asking for a cutoff is refusing. Therefore what do you call what Floyd requested which was a 21 day cutoff?

              Once again...nobody refused a test. I believe in the beginning it had more to do with the way Floyd approached the entire issue by first accusing Pac of being a roiding cheater. TR saw it as "who the hell is Floyd to blast Pac for being a cheater then demand he take tests" It was more of an ego thing than anything else.

              The past is the past and Pac is now willing to accept a smaller slice of the pie and full OSTD. Floyd on the other hand has now demanded that

              Pac leave Arum first

              Join TMT and give Floyd fights under his banner first

              Called Pac desperate for willing to accept less for a fight

              etc....
              Apart from the child like OP's ridiculous claims of negative PED use, let's get something straight though.

              Regardless of PEDS, this is no excuse for the so called TBE, lb for lb champ of all time ducking the natural challenger to his hegemony.

              He is scared ****less of Pac.

              And the Floyd duck of Pacquiao is right at the top of the most disgusting/disgraceful and BLATANT ducking of all time!

              Only thing that equals it is the Rid**** Bowe duck of Lennox Lewis back in 92/93.

              Rid**** and Floyd, brothers in duckery!

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              • #57
                Evidence is the fact that his shaved head looks like Barry bonds'. He also demonstrates long vacations to cycle on and off plus shows huge roid rage in choking females in front of kids while having also emotional breakdowns on the internet.

                If you need more, he also hired a known steroid distributor who admitted to having undetectables. Lastly he comes to the ring bigger than ever and shows chest acne.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by titan m View Post
                  I think you may have missed my point though, It seemed to me TS is just upset when its Pacquiao that is accused but for people who are on this site a lot its obvious that everybody is getting accused around here, so you cant be sour when your favorite fighter is accused with no solid evidence but at the same time be ok with it when its happening to a fighter you don't like.
                  "Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather, Matthysse, Garcia, Porter and the list goes on and on but no mention of any of those guys."

                  I got this the wrong way then, I thought you meant people in general, my apologies man.

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                  • #59
                    It's not "what you know." It's "what you can prove."

                    Pacquiao refused the olympic style, random drug tests due to to his fear of needles, so the truth we'll never know...

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by The Tase View Post
                      evidence or GTFO fl 0 m0.

                      i dont care about red k either.

                      i only mentioned it because you denied being a floyd fan, a bad floyd fan at that.

                      most repugnant floyd posters are in red and post just like you.


                      cong****.
                      Don't try to play it off now a$$hat,like I said prove that Iam Floyd fan you lying sack of s*h*i*t. Just because posters don't worship PAC nuts like you doest mean we are Floyd fans.f*u*c*k your PAC vs may groupie mentality

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