Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[Deevel916]

Well Floyd did say during the original negotiations that if Pacquaio doesn't agree to 14 days then it will be off the table and if they negotiate again it will without a cut off date.

Then down the line conveniently 14 days is ok.

My point is, one fighter was making concessions towards making the fight happen while the other fighter was making it more difficult.

[Elroy1]

you dont know **** about boxing history with that garbage post.

Here get some knowledge because i have to go to work and dont have the time for this ******ity:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=342904

read every post in there from the historians of this site (never see you in the history section) and educate yourself.

moron.

I would be banned in an instant were I to post in the history section... Believe me! LOL

The topic of your discussion has nothing to do with history (other than previously mentioned). It's about "Pac" and "steorids"... 2 very MODERN problems and issues.

Whatever criteria your using isn't sound. What your calling "evidence" is proof he used which means he'd have to be busted, of course you can't be proven wrong with that criteria.

But circumstantial evidence, especially from people who have used or know the signs of ppl who use affirm that he was at one stage, beaming his bloody eyes out!

And let's not forget, I am a Pac FAN! saying this. You aren't doing Pac any credit denying this, whatsoever!

[WesleySnipes]

There is never any evidence until you get caught so this is kind of a ****** question...where was the evidence before Mosley, Jones or Toney got caught?

[George Orwell]

it must be true because:

1. Floyd says it is.
2. Paulie on twitter says/suggests/implies that it is
3. Posters on the internet say it is.

[Elroy1]

There is never any evidence until you get caught so this is kind of a ****** question...where was the evidence before Mosley, Jones or Toney got caught?

Agreed. OP delivers nothing but the ramblings of a complete fool!

Thread closed for me!

[The Big Dunn]

How about trying to be unbiased for once and/or at least tell the truth. Not once did Pac ever refuse to take the test. The issue at hand was a cutoff date that both him and Floyd couldnt agree on. It stalled at Pac wanting 21 days and Floyd wanting 14 days. At that point the fight was called off due to both camps being unable to reach an agreement. During the next round of negotiations Pac gave in and agreed to the 14 days with Floyd moving the goal post and requesting 0 days.

Now this is my question. If Pac made concessions to agree to Floyd's original 14 cutoff, why would Floyd retract if he REALLY wanted to make the fight? It was a this point where Ross Greenberg of HBO sports stated when asked about why isnt the fight happening..."You're going to have to ask Floyd Mayweather why"

Asking for a cutoff is refusing. Its simple as that. Me being a floyd fan and not a big fan of Manny doesn't make pointing that out biased. It didn't stall, Manny got caught lying about not giving blood within a time frame then they showed him giving blood during the Hatton fight.

Manny agreed to whatever cutoff after Floyd said on TV the deal is off. The man wouldn't agree for 6 months. He decided to wait it out to see if floyd would lose to Mosley, when he didn't he had no choice but to change his stance becuae the leverage thought he'd have was gone. Thats not altruism or Manny trying to make a fight, thats a loser trying to save face.

Floyd decided to play hardball and use the leverage he got from beating Mosley to make Manny take less than he wanted.. Not until Manny agreed to do that would floyd consider to fight. It was payback for Manny doing the same thing. Stop crying about it.

So again, you can point fingers at floyd as you wish. The bottom line is Manny refused the tests for no good reason and any su****ion anyone has because of those actions are the fault of Manny and his team.

[titan m]

TS seems mad but is it about fighters getting accused of using steroids with no proof or is it just a "leave Pacquiao alone" thing?

Its true there is no proof Pacquiao was on anything but same goes for Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather, Matthysse, Garcia, Porter and the list goes on and on but no mention of any of those guys.

If you've been around here so long you should know its common knowledge that people on this forum have been accusing every fighter of being dirty for years now and don't give them credit for their victories and talk about them like they are garbage, meanwhile some retired fighters who were actually caught using HGH or steroids are highly praised.

There is no point in arguing over it though because you have fans of different fighters who label you with some childish name if you say something positive about a fighter they hate or if you say something negative about a fighter they love, its almost impossible to have an actual conversation without it some idiots chiming in with the insults and childish **** because that's all they really know.

[IronDanHamza]

My point is, one fighter was making concessions towards making the fight happen while the other fighter was making it more difficult.

Right but it was already apparent and public that 14 days would be off the table if it wasn't accepted this time and there would be no cut off date next time round.

Either way it was turned down this fell through.

[The Tase]

I would be banned in an instant were I to post in the history section... Believe me! LOL

The topic of your discussion has nothing to do with history (other than previously mentioned). It's about "Pac" and "steorids"... 2 very MODERN problems and issues.

Whatever criteria your using isn't sound. What your calling "evidence" is proof he used which means he'd have to be busted, of course you can't be proven wrong with that criteria.

But circumstantial evidence, especially from people who have used or know the signs of ppl who use affirm that he was at one stage, beaming his bloody eyes out!

And let's not forget, I am a Pac FAN! saying this. You aren't doing Pac any credit denying this, whatsoever!

im really getting late for work, ill be coming back to this thread when i go on my break but wtf man?

i give you that link and that is your response?

one mor thing before i go,

YOU ARE FULL OF **** claiming to be a pacquiao fan.

your join date and the fact that you are in red and how you are posting in here makes that an impossibility. ive never met a pacquiao fan who was in red here.

NEVER.


ill be back to see all the posts WITH ZERO EVIDENCE.

[The Big Dunn]

My point is, one fighter was making concessions towards making the fight happen while the other fighter was making it more difficult.

Had he simply agreed to take the tests, the fight wouldn't have fallen through and there would be no need for the rest of the crap.