Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[IMDAZED]

I still can't believe Pacquaio went above the Comission and implemented his own weight penalty.

Thank god Floyd turned that down.

Manny was trying to get out of the fight. Unprecedented move. What a coward.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I don't know. My guess, he was worried about the specific fight, not the sport.

If its based on the rules already set, then there was no need for the additional overweight penalty. You can't have it both ways djtmal. We agree they both are to blame over the course of 4-5 years. You just keep trying to find some wiggle room to jsutify manny refusing to test and causing the fight to fall through. IMO there is none. If necessary we can agree to disagree.

I am not trying to change your opinion. Manny said no and caused the fight to fall through. Thats a fact. You just think he was justified-I don't.

I don't need you to share my opinion. All I need you to do is be honest that MAnny refused testing for the floyd fight initially. He also did this with JMM 4.

JMM didn't insult Manny, make any videos, accuse him of anything. He went about asking for testing respectfully. Manny still refused. The reasons you and others use to justify his refusal hold no water here.

You can continue to avoid discussing manny's actions, but the rest of the adult world will not. Manny and floyd will be held accountable for their actions by rational, objective adults even if members of their respective fanbases choose not to.

I mean, to wait 3 freaking years is inexcusable. I don't buy into the cutoff, Pacquiao wanted nothing to do with the tests, if he felt his name was being dragged then he would have used OST earlier, like...against Clottey and so on. It's no different than going against Marquez, pertaining to the whole drug testing saga, you can counter Pacquiao from all angles.

[Divine Hammer]

They didn't pack on muscle overnight. They rehydrated with fluids.

so he does this at welterweight too. he doesn't have to drain himself down anymore.

pac's walk around weight is around 140s. he fights at his natural weight now.

[djtmal]

I don't know. My guess, he was worried about the specific fight, not the sport.

If its based on the rules already set, then there was no need for the additional overweight penalty. You can't have it both ways djtmal. We agree they both are to blame over the course of 4-5 years. You just keep trying to find some wiggle room to jsutify manny refusing to test and causing the fight to fall through. IMO there is none. If necessary we can agree to disagree.

I am not trying to change your opinion. Manny said no and caused the fight to fall through. Thats a fact. You just think he was justified-I don't.

I don't need you to share my opinion. All I need you to do is be honest that MAnny refused testing for the floyd fight initially. He also did this with JMM 4.

JMM didn't insult Manny, make any videos, accuse him of anything. He went about asking for testing respectfully. Manny still refused. The reasons you and others use to justify his refusal hold no water here.

You can continue to avoid discussing manny's actions, but the rest of the adult world will not. Manny and floyd will be held accountable for their actions by rational, objective adults even if members of their respective fanbases choose not to.

Dude, You personally believe that Manny saying no is the only reason the fight was scrapped without acknowledging the Mayweather's fault in this. Everything else is you state is highly debatable, depending on what side of the fence you sit on, and its obvious you are glued to one side. Crazy glued.

[jifferson]

Marquez never attempted to limit the amount of blood tests, never picked the date for 3 of those blood tests, never looked for cutoff dates. Has actually express willingness to test, even against said-fighter you guys think was victimized. Not saying Marquez is clean but the other guy I'm describing is more su****ious.

Now put me back on ignore lol

King JMM knocked Pac the *** out is they mad or nah??

[hectari]

Dude, You personally believe that Manny saying no is the only reason the fight was scrapped without acknowledging the Mayweather's fault in this. Everything else is you state is highly debatable, depending on what side of the fence you sit on, and its obvious you are glued to one side. Crazy glued.

All he has is to hold onto the past first negotiations, because that sides with his view the most. Just like when they keep saying scared of needles, yet Pac never said he was scared of needles it was Arum, they can't even get their stuff straight.

they just say whatever pleases them and their bias.

[NearHypnos]

Dude, You personally believe that Manny saying no is the only reason the fight was scrapped without acknowledging the Mayweather's fault in this. Everything else is you state is highly debatable, depending on what side of the fence you sit on, and its obvious you are glued to one side. Crazy glued.

Not to defend him but the first time out the only thing that kept it from happening was the test frol what I recall.. They've BOTH been at fault at different times as have their respective teams (Manny's team was the worse of the 2 imo). He's saying that they were both at fault...but the time the testing was refused is clear.


Btw, Tase I mean no offense but you almost tapped into your inner Larry (lol sorry bro!) but for Pac. Take it easy. >__>.... Jesus

[IMDAZED]

so he does this at welterweight too. he doesn't have to drain himself down anymore.

pac's walk around weight is around 140s. he fights at his natural weight now.

He doesn't gain 10-15lbs of water weight overnight at welter, sorry.

Hope you learned something.

[Beercules]

"He has a big head doe" - Floydiots

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No but there is PLENTY of evidence of him avoiding the tests as often as possible, suing, and ducking and dodging.

Pacquiao did himself NO favors.