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Could THIS Be the Reason Why Shawn Porter Hasn't Signed the Contract to Fight Brook?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Gigantes View Post
    any evidence on him hooking up with conte? that'd be another red flag
    Why would that be a red flag? From what i've seen on this site as of recently Conte is seen as some big champion for better testing due to his affiliation with VADA. Also since he came out saying everyone could be juicing

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
      Why would that be a red flag? From what i've seen on this site as of recently Conte is seen as some big champion for better testing due to his affiliation with VADA. Also since he came out saying everyone could be juicing
      Anyone associated with a known steroid cheat is a red flag

      I take it you saw no red flag with Marquez working with his known steroid cheat too then right?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
        damn man you are going to get ****d with red k
        That's fine, I got ****d for it when I said Loma will beat GRJ easily too.

        Shane admit to his usage of steroids but what people don't seem to understand is at the weights these smaller guys don't just develop crazy KO power from jabbing their legs or popping a few dianabol pills.

        Natural strength is there, JMM KO'd Pac with a sweetly timed counter punch, that could have been coming from a Kostya Zyu or Zab Judah with the same effect.
        Only difference is Marquez is naturally a very small guy, to see his body without steroids trained he could probably barely make 140 and look relatively lean, he just isnt genetically big enough.

        Boxers in the weightclasses below atleast LHW do not massively benefit from PED use, it's more too shred excessive weight and appear more muscular.

        You just wont get the superior strength gains people rave on about at a weight of 147lbs.

        Lamont Cheaterson wasn't knocking out nobody when he was juicing, neither were any other WW's.

        If you want to research it for your own benefit check "******" on google most widely used by boxers and MMA fighters.

        Today there are steroids being manufactured that are literally undetectable by any drugs testing agency.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
          Definitely enough here for a ban with that last line. Reported.
          I'm reporting you for being a *****.

          They are American and therefore fight under american commissions with american promoters, which is the issue being highlighted.

          Are you admitting to being ****** enough to not see the distinction?

          I just pulled this from another forum so I'll apologise in advance for mistakes. Clearly, these boxers are not all american however most of them fall under one if not both of the categories I've mentioned.

          James Toney (Boldenone & stanozolol)
          Roy Jones Jr (Androstenedione)
          Antonio Tarver (Drostanolone)
          Sadam Ali (Cathine)
          Shane Mosley (Tetrahydrogestrinone)
          Vitali Klitschko (Anabolic steroids)
          Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (Furosemide / Marijuana metabolites)
          Fernando Vargas (Stanozolol)
          Ricardo Mayorga (Furosemide)
          Eloy Pérez (*******)
          Danny Batchelder (Stanazolol & oxandolone)
          Juan Carlos Gomez (*******)
          Evander Holyfield (Elevated testosterone, HGH & Saizen)
          Mike Tyson (Marijuana metabolites)
          Joan Guzmán (Furosemide)
          Vitali Klitschko (Anabolic steroids)
          Lamont Peterson (Synthetic Testosterone)
          Orlando Salido (Nandrolone)
          Francois Botha (Nandrolone)
          Tommy Morrison ("steroids")
          Pernell Whitaker (*******)
          Ali Funeka (Hydrochlorothiazide)
          Larry Olubamiwo (Erythropoietin / "thirteen banned substances")
          Andre Berto (Norandrosterone)
          Ali Adams (Stanozolol)

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          • #45
            I think most of these guys are juicing, and i think people make too much of it. Ped's don't insure wins. And Porter fought as a light middleweight in the amateurs. He's a big strong guy.

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            • #46
              I'm sure as hell suspect about Porter. He hurts Paulie like no one has ever hurt him before.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                Interview with Brook's promoter, Eddie Hearn, from last week. Skip to 13.00



                Hearn mentions he asked for random drug testing in the terms of contract.

                Could this be the reason that Team Porter is stalling on singing it? Are they shook by this condition?

                We all saw how Porter, who'd been a fairly ho-hum run of the mill fighter until recently, suddenly looked like a mini Tyson against Malignaggi.

                Paulie himself was shocked and said he'd never been hit like that before. He ended up with a brain bleed if I'm not mistaken. He said he'd not been concerned about Porter's power before because he hadn't really KO'd anybody. He seemed to be intimating that Porter might be on something.

                And perhaps most importantly, Porter is American.....so there's that.
                I've actually heard rumors of Brook PED usage. Did you see how unnaturally ripped he was before the Alexander fight at one point?

                Do they even do random blood testing in the UK for big fights? Like Mayweather does?

                Did Froch/Groves 2 have blood testing?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
                  I've actually heard rumors of Brook PED usage. Did you see how unnaturally ripped he was before the Alexander fight at one point?

                  Do they even do random blood testing in the UK for big fights? Like Mayweather does?
                  UK fighters are randomly tested year round by VADA under the rules of the British Boxing Board of Control.

                  So no, not like Mayweather because he chooses when he wants to be tested.

                  There is no system in place like this in America which is very concerning.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    UK fighters are randomly tested year round by VADA under the rules of the British Boxing Board of Control.

                    So no, not like Mayweather because he chooses when he wants to be tested.

                    There is no system in place like this in America which is very concerning.
                    Do you have a source from VADA confirming Kell Brook's last test?

                    They almost always post that stuff online, or on their site. A "congratulations Kell" type of thing.

                    Mayweather was the first boxer in the world to implement blood testing by the way.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
                      Do you have a source from VADA confirming Kell Brook's last test?

                      They almost always post that stuff online, or on their site. A "congratulations Kell" type of thing.

                      Mayweather was the first boxer in the world to implement blood testing by the way.
                      No he wasn't. And he doesn't get tested year round. He gets tested when he signs a fight and stops getting tested when the fight is over.

                      British boxers are randomly tested year round.

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