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  • WilkinsOlajuwon
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    #11
    Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin
    Not sure if this was mentioned but apparently Giampa's husband works for Ring magazine. conflict of interest?
    Chuck Giampa is the chairman of the ring rankings committee. He creates its p4p list. He was a judge for like 30 years and his wife has been one for awhile too. No shenanigans she just blew it. He doesnt think that fight was a draw

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      #12
      I might be in the minority but I don't think Russell's quality of opposition (or lack thereof) had anything to do with this.

      Lomachenko is just plain bigger and stronger than him. And he has skills on top of that so this ended up being a bad combination....good big man beats good little man almost every time.

      In previous fights Gary didn't just flash speed, he was also hurting guys. But in this match once he felt Loma's power he became wary of it and stopped throwing hard shots of his own. Turned him into a complete arm puncher who was just tapping and touching with no intent to hurt any more.

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      • deanrw
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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        I might be in the minority but I don't think Russell's quality of opposition (or lack thereof) had anything to do with this.

        Lomachenko is just plain bigger and stronger than him. And he has skills on top of that so this ended up being a bad combination....good big man beats good little man almost every time.

        In previous fights Gary didn't just flash speed, he was also hurting guys. But in this match once he felt Loma's power he became wary of it and stopped throwing hard shots of his own. Turned him into a complete arm puncher who was just tapping and touching with no intent to hurt any more.
        Yeah after a certain point, he was using offense mainly just to keep Loma off him. It worked to an extent. His bee buzzing prevented Loma from going to town on him.

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        • Y0@NN
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          #14
          Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
          Chuck Giampa is the chairman of the ring rankings committee. He creates its p4p list. He was a judge for like 30 years and his wife has been one for awhile too. No shenanigans she just blew it. He doesnt think that fight was a draw
          Lederman's daughter is horrible too, she had Martinez - Macklin a draw before the 11th round retirement, that means she had it for Macklin by 3 after 10 rounds and before the 10-7 11th in favor of Martinez...

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            I might be in the minority but I don't think Russell's quality of opposition (or lack thereof) had anything to do with this.

            Lomachenko is just plain bigger and stronger than him. And he has skills on top of that so this ended up being a bad combination....good big man beats good little man almost every time.
            They weighed the same at the weigh-in (125.5) as well as on fight night (138).

            Weights the day before and the day of the fight are here:



            Being a bit taller does not necessarily make someone bigger. David Tua and Floyd Mayweather are close to the same height, and Floyd actually has longer arms and wingspan than Tua. Is Floyd the same size or bigger than Tua?

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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              I might be in the minority but I don't think Russell's quality of opposition (or lack thereof) had anything to do with this.

              Lomachenko is just plain bigger and stronger than him. And he has skills on top of that so this ended up being a bad combination....good big man beats good little man almost every time.

              In previous fights Gary didn't just flash speed, he was also hurting guys. But in this match once he felt Loma's power he became wary of it and stopped throwing hard shots of his own. Turned him into a complete arm puncher who was just tapping and touching with no intent to hurt any more.
              I agree to an extent. As noted, Loma might always beat him. Point was his development didn't give him the beat chance to deal with a talent. Russell was faster than I gave credit for initially. Lina's ability to work against that was highly impressive.

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #17
                Originally posted by Freedom2014
                They weighed the same at the weigh-in (125.5) as well as on fight night (138).

                Weights the day before and the day of the fight are here:



                Being a bit taller does not necessarily make someone bigger. David Tua and Floyd Mayweather are close to the same height, and Floyd actually has longer arms and wingspan than Tua. Is Floyd the same size or bigger than Tua?
                Very great point that should not have even had to be pointed out, but.......................................

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