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  • yoshik
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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    It's pathetic that he's trying to make out he was robbed.

    Ruslan was the house fighter.
    He was robbed. Take a lesson in judging pro fights. Get off the couch fat a s s.. You don't know ****.

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    • yoshik
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      #42
      Originally posted by MrP4P
      Love Rigo but huge difference between Algeri and Rigo, Chris is exciting.. hes not waiting to counter, hes a volume puncher like say Leo Santa Cruz, Chris just moves more but when he turns it on, he turns it on.
      Chris is a nobody. He lost. Period.

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      • yoshik
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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxingscener
        are you serious? Lampley and Kellerman were all RUslans NUtts even tho he landed 1 or 2 punches a round.
        They were told to be on Algieris band wagon. They were definitely pushing Chris. Watch again. Typical sh *t HBO commentators. The worse in the world.

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        • yoshik
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          #44
          Originally posted by ChestRockwell
          This is getting embarrassing. He got outboxed. You could even see it in his expression when he was in his corner as the fight went on. He's embarrassed because he's been hyped up so hard and lost to a man who was virtually unknown. This is boxing. What did Provodnikov want? A light puncher to brawl with him and let him land hard shots all night? He's mad because he's got this reputation as a tough Russian who grew up hard and he got beat by a college boy. Life goes on.
          More effective blows landed by Ruslan. Take a pro judging lesson before you run your yapper.

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          • yoshik
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            #45
            This is for all the "Judging geniuses"



            Read this. Maybe it will help you be a little more intelligent when flapping your gums about who won.

            All you couch experts tell me why Algieri won. In terms of defense they were evenly matched.

            Pac Man would catch Algieri and his ballet footwork and crossing his legs during lateral movement and kill him. Algieri is ok. Ruslan will kill him in a rematch.

            Prizefighting - Objectives and Scoring

            Prizefighting utilizes a 10-point system by which the winner of the round must be given 10 points, while the loser of the round must be given nine or fewer. There are 3 judges instead of 5 and there is no computerized-tallying scoring system.

            Fighters can hit each other anywhere above the belt as long as it is on the side or front of the head or body. And as in the amateur game, it's illegal to strike an opponent below the belt or on the back of the head and in the kidneys.
            In stark contrast to Olympic boxing, prizefight scoring is open-ended and scores are rendered purely based on the judges' opinions using four criteria: Effective Aggression, Defense, Ring Generalship, and Clean and Hard punching.

            Effective Aggression
            Essentially, an effective aggressor is the fighter making the fight happen. He's effectively pursuing and throwing punches while his opponent is backpedalling or on the defense. In order to be "effective" one must have success landing consistently while moving forward.

            Defense
            In prizefighting, as in the amateurs, the ability to hit the opponent without being hit in return is key. Defense may include ducking, dodging, bobbing and weaving, parrying, blocking, slipping, and sidestepping, as well as effectively utilizing the clinch. In prizefights, judges are impressed with fighters who can protect themselves well in the heat of battle.

            Ring Generalship
            Thefighter who dictates the tempo of the bout or is seemingly in control of the action is the ring general. An effective ring general makes his/her opponent fight their fight instead of their opponent's.

            Clean and Hard Punching
            A "clean" blow is one that lands flush without being partially blocked or parried. Pros are rewarded for knockdowns and are given extra credit for landing harder punches and/or staggering or wobbling an opponent.

            This is

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            • Fr3$h
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              #46
              I lost some respect for Provodnikov with this "neutral venue" rhetoric. He got outboxed.

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              • wiz1030
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                #47
                Lol, Ruslan is the reason it was at the Barclays. They have an exclusive arrangement with Showtime, but Prokhorov opened it up for Ruslan because he himself is Russian and is a fan. Poor excuse.

                They should just do it at the Barclays again IMO. Both fighters seemed to have plenty fans there listening to crowd during the announcements and intros.



                I think Ruslan can win if he doesn't forget about the body like he did the first time.

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by yoshik
                  http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/2...g-and-the-Pros

                  Read this. Maybe it will help you be a little more intelligent when flapping your gums about who won.

                  All you couch experts tell me why Algieri won. In terms of defense they were evenly matched.

                  Pac Man would catch Algieri and his ballet footwork and crossing his legs during lateral movement and kill him. Algieri is ok. Ruslan will kill him in a rematch.

                  Prizefighting - Objectives and Scoring

                  Prizefighting utilizes a 10-point system by which the winner of the round must be given 10 points, while the loser of the round must be given nine or fewer. There are 3 judges instead of 5 and there is no computerized-tallying scoring system.

                  Fighters can hit each other anywhere above the belt as long as it is on the side or front of the head or body. And as in the amateur game, it's illegal to strike an opponent below the belt or on the back of the head and in the kidneys.
                  In stark contrast to Olympic boxing, prizefight scoring is open-ended and scores are rendered purely based on the judges' opinions using four criteria: Effective Aggression, Defense, Ring Generalship, and Clean and Hard punching.

                  Effective Aggression
                  Essentially, an effective aggressor is the fighter making the fight happen. He's effectively pursuing and throwing punches while his opponent is backpedalling or on the defense. In order to be "effective" one must have success landing consistently while moving forward.

                  Defense
                  In prizefighting, as in the amateurs, the ability to hit the opponent without being hit in return is key. Defense may include ducking, dodging, bobbing and weaving, parrying, blocking, slipping, and sidestepping, as well as effectively utilizing the clinch. In prizefights, judges are impressed with fighters who can protect themselves well in the heat of battle.

                  Ring Generalship
                  Thefighter who dictates the tempo of the bout or is seemingly in control of the action is the ring general. An effective ring general makes his/her opponent fight their fight instead of their opponent's.

                  Clean and Hard Punching
                  A "clean" blow is one that lands flush without being partially blocked or parried. Pros are rewarded for knockdowns and are given extra credit for landing harder punches and/or staggering or wobbling an opponent.

                  This is
                  What are you showing us? Algieri qualified for every single one of those criterias except "Effective Aggression". Which Provodnikov wasnt very good at either. Algieri ruled all the other criterias tho.

                  Provodnikov's CLEAN HARD blows werent consecutive. He would have one here and there.
                  Last edited by .:: JSFD26 ::.; 06-18-2014, 07:49 PM.

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                  • shadow-boxer
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                    What are you showing us? Algieri qualified for every single one of those criterias except "Effective Aggression". Which Provodnikov wasnt very good at either. Algieri ruled all the other criterias tho.

                    Provodnikov's CLEAN HARD blows werent consecutive. He would have one here and there.
                    You are a fool for replying to yoshik. Don't you know he is nothing but an arrogant idiot? Disagree with him and he calls you names. Agree with him and he changes sides. Just ignore this little imp!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Evol
                      not saying u directly but the ones saying algeri won is saying it was a blow out and since u believe algeri won i just group u in with the rest LOL. they say if u take away the first round then ruslan is a bum. so meaning the fight was a blow out if u take away round 1.
                      I will say it, and since you cannot see me I will guarantee you that I am saying it with a straight face, if you take away the first round Algieri beat him and actually did it rather easily. And I wanted Ruslan to win.

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