Comments Thread For: Photo: Provodnikov vs. Algieri Official Scorecards

[badass316]

Just watched it. I scored it 116-110 for Prov. There was no way you can give that fight to Algieri. This isn't an amateur fight. I gave a handful of rounds to Prov even though compubox indicated he was out landed. 10 pitty pat range finders are not better than 1 hard shot.

The judge who gave Algieri rounds 2-9 is on drugs. The other one who gave him the 12th was watching something else. It's no surprise that those two in particular are the ones who had it 114-112. Algieri increased his stock by lasting 12 rounds against Prov, but it doesn't equate to him garnering a victory simply because he made it to the finish line.

[OnePunch]

Yeah, and this I saw first upon seeing the scorecards! This is fairly fishy.. Anyone from the insider could explain this, please?

after each round the referee collects the individual round scores from each judge and gives it to the commission table. Someone at the table then transfers those scores to the master scorecard, which is what you are seeing in this photo......

[LouIE G]

That's the final scorecard not individual judges slips. 1 person wrote it all. That explains the handwriting

Man i thought you wanted algieri to stay down after this supposed butt whooping, that way he can fight on and win the title after provo vacates?? What happened?

[LouIE G]

Just watched it. I scored it 116-110 for Prov. There was no way you can give that fight to Algieri. This isn't an amateur fight. I gave a handful of rounds to Prov even though compubox indicated he was out landed. 10 pitty pat range finders are not better than 1 hard shot.

The judge who gave Algieri rounds 2-9 is on drugs. The other one who gave him the 12th was watching something else. It's no surprise that those two in particular are the ones who had it 114-112. Algieri increased his stock by lasting 12 rounds against Prov, but it doesn't equate to him garnering a victory simply because he made it to the finish line.

Who do you think won chavez jr vs vera 1?

[badass316]

Who do you think won chavez jr vs vera 1?

Haven't seen it. I don't take it upon myself to watch very many Chavez Jr fights because he's absolutely terrible and has no business competing at the top level.

[daggum]

classic case of underdog who is supposed to get demolished doing better than expected so people overcompensate and think he's doing better than he really is. he was landing very little "clean punches" shoe-shine punches that half-graze your opponent hardly count as clean punches to me. ruslan landed almost all the clean punches to the head and body and shook up algeri many times with his punches. when ruslan lands a punch you can tell, when algeri "lands" a punch you can't even tell if it hits ruslan because he pulls almost all his punches.

[big_james10]

Just watched it. I scored it 116-110 for Prov. There was no way you can give that fight to Algieri. This isn't an amateur fight. I gave a handful of rounds to Prov even though compubox indicated he was out landed. 10 pitty pat range finders are not better than 1 hard shot.

The judge who gave Algieri rounds 2-9 is on drugs. The other one who gave him the 12th was watching something else. It's no surprise that those two in particular are the ones who had it 114-112. Algieri increased his stock by lasting 12 rounds against Prov, but it doesn't equate to him garnering a victory simply because he made it to the finish line.

Actually, based on judging criteria, those 10 pitty pat shots are better than one hard one. You obviously don't think those pitty pat shots did any damage, but who says that the one hard shot accomplished anything?

[LouIE G]

Haven't seen it. I don't take it upon myself to watch very many Chavez Jr fights because he's absolutely terrible and has no business competing at the top level.

Most of people after that fight thought that chavez jr had lost becuz vera outworked him, but chavez jr landed the harder punches and 50% of hiz shots in that fight, but the same thing happens here and people think provo won, though he landed the harder shots he just got outworked by the busier guy. Algieri did land alot of good shots on provo, and i thought he won a but 2 things can be learned about my comparison (1) there is a shiat load of chavez jr. Haters on nsb and (2) theres alot of provo nut huggers on nsb who dont want to admit rhey were wrong on their prediction!! Watch the first chavez jr fight and compare the fights, you might contradict yourself a bit.

[daggum]

Actually, based on judging criteria, those 10 pitty pat shots are better than one hard one. You obviously don't think those pitty pat shots did any damage, but who says that the one hard shot accomplished anything?

they should rename boxing to semantics. it says clean-effective punching. now to me a punch that barely grazes your opponent and doesn't land fully or with much power isn't clean or effective but once again this is a semantics game to defend what fighter you like. i don't think anyone is going to say ruslan's punches weren't clean. you can tell when he lands. when algeri throws you can't even tell if he lands because he pulls his punches and the impact if there even is one is barely noticeable.

[badass316]

Most of people after that fight thought that chavez jr had lost becuz vera outworked him, but chavez jr landed the harder punches and 50% of hiz shots in that fight, but the same thing happens here and people think provo won, though he landed the harder shots he just got outworked by the busier guy. Algieri did land alot of good shots on provo, and i thought he won a but 2 things can be learned about my comparison (1) there is a shiat load of chavez jr. Haters on nsb and (2) theres alot of provo nut huggers on nsb who dont want to admit rhey were wrong on their prediction!! Watch the first chavez jr fight and compare the fights, you might contradict yourself a bit.

You can't assume that just because one fighter is busier he's outworking the other guy. Context has to be taken into account. A boxer can simply be busier by throwing a hundred pitty pat range finders, but it doesn't translate to him outworking the other guy in my opinion.

Algieri landed some good shots, but they were not nearly as good as the ones Prov was putting on him. You can give him credit in the sense that he was able to adjust to Prov's punches and showed the ability to take them better as the fight went on. He certainly didn't land enough "good" shots to necessitate a win. Not even close.

My pre-fight prediction for this fight went as far as Algieri's ability to withstand the type of force Prov was going to bring in front of him. He coped with it a lot better than I thought a relative unknown would, but not nearly enough to get him the nod. Just because he finished the fight standing on his two feet doesn't mean he won. A moral victory perhaps, but by no means an actual victory.

I'm a fan of Prov because he's an entertaining fighter. I honestly can't see how any logical boxing fans wouldn't like him or his style. As far as Chavez is concerned, any hate he gets is justified. In fact, he should be hated more. The guy is just a bum. He's popular because people see him as an extension of his legendary father. If that humiliation he suffered at the hands of Sergio didn't happen he would still be carrying the facade of a good fighter. So no, I'm not going to watch that first Vera fight because I simply don't want to waste my time.