Bad Decisions 1: Whitaker vs De La Hoya (VIDEO)

[tyger]

When I first watched I thought Whitaker won but I watched and scored it again and scored it a draw. It was one of those that could go either way, like Oscar-Quartey.

[Mikhnienko]

Reserved for scorecard i'm going to re-watch it right now.

I had Whitaker winning by a couple points we'll see if my opinion changes. He showboats but people acting like he did nothing else are way off base he isn't SRL in the Duran II or Hagler fights with all flash and no substance.

DLH had terrible accuracy because of his defense i remember Lampley going crazy at the end of two rounds (5 and 7 maybe) when Oscar flurries but not a damn thing landed he literally missed a 8 punch combination and HBO crew gives him the round because of it.

EDIT for scorecard post review

1 - PW - clear - PW controls the range, out jabs DLH and lands some nice lefts to the head and body. DLH lands virtually nothing of note aside from one flurry with a little under a minute left and maybe two right hands during the rest of the rd.

2 - DLH - fairly close

3 - Even 9-9 - PW round but minus 1 point because of WBC headbutt rule making it 9-9 - fairly close DLH misses a 4 punch combo at the end of the round, uppercut is glancing at best, good left hook and HBO acts like it wins him the round.

4 - PW - clear. DLH displaying a masterclass on how to punch air. 2:00 Lampley "hard right hand by DLH" punch misses by about 5 inches lol. End of the round DLH flurries with 10 punches and lands one left hook which PW is rolling with and everything else misses Lampley goes crazy. Merchant keeps things honest noting how nothing landed. PW landed lots of nice stuff in the first two minutes.

5 - PW - clear - Lampley trying to claim Whitaker has landed nothing of note which couldn't be farther from the truth he lands lots of clean punches in the last two minutes while Oscar is missing with comical regularity and looks dreadful. The first minute even both land some good shots.

6 - DLH - very close genuine swing round

7 - PW - clear

8 - DLH - clear - Oscar only landed maybe 5 good power shots and missed tons but this was the first round where PW really didn't do much of anything offensively and it cost him the round.

9 - PW - 10-8

10 - PW - clear - the first two minutes is a lovely display by PW controlling every aspect in there. DLH flurries with another 10 punch combo at the end landing two body shots to start, missing 7 head punches then landing one more body shot at the end with PW landing a couple of his own downstairs to make the exchange even. HBO doesn't show a replay of the flurry having learned from round 4 and not wanting to embarrass Oscar by showing him miss everything.

11 - PW - reasonably close but clear with some decent action in the last half

12 - DLH

Final Score 115 - 111 Whitaker

PW 8 rounds (1,3,4,5,7,9,10,11) rd 3 becomes even 9-9 from deduction and rd 9 is 10-8 with KD

DLH 4 rounds (2,6,8,12)

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Oscar won.. I thought that live when I watched it, and I just rewatched it and I get the same result

1 pernell
2 oscar
3 oscar. -1 pt Whitaker so it's 10-8
4 oscar
5 pernell
6 oscar
7 oscar
8 oscar- pernells own corner telling him he's losing
9 Whitaker 10-8
10whitaker
11 Whitaker
12 oscar

114-112. The judges scorecards were horribly too wide

[Doctor_Tenma]

Reserved for scorecard i'm going to re-watch it right now.

I had Whitaker winning by a couple points we'll see if my opinion changes. He showboats but people acting like he did nothing else are way off base he isn't SRL in the Duran II or Hagler fights with all flash and no substance.

DLH had terrible accuracy because of his defense i remember Lampley going crazy at the end of two rounds (5 and 7 maybe) when Oscar flurries but not a damn thing landed he literally missed a 8 punch combination and HBO crew gives him the round because of it.

I'm with you but he could have put in quality work as opposed to showboating. DLH didn't have much substance in his offense but it was enough to keep Whitaker defensively occupied.

[brickcityboxing]

Whitaker ... Close but clear (imo)

[billeau2]

whitaker by a clear margin...Clear knockdown, more accurate punches, more punches landed and tha ****** heatbutt rule.

[Mikhnienko]

DLH won it, black america needs to let it go. This is coming from a big Whitaker fan as well.

I'm not American, Black, or a defensive hipster. Reality is that along with putting on a brilliant defensive display and making DLH miss a dizzying amount Pernell consistently landed good stuff too which won him the rounds.

I'm not a fan of showboating but it wasn't pointless or being done when nothing was going on like SRL spinning his arm for a bolo while standing 8 feet away from his opponent. He was "showboating" while in punching range and making Oscar miss 4,5,6,7 punch combinations at times. Like it or not it was effective and skillful perhaps being one of the best displays of Drunken Master style we have at an elite level in combat sports. People solely talking about it while ignoring everything else are just using it to try justifying the robbery. His showboating > Oscar's offense.

[Awesome-O]

It was a really close fight. No robbery.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I'm not American, Black, or a defensive hipster. Reality is that along with putting on a brilliant defensive display and making DLH miss a dizzying amount Pernell consistently landed good stuff too which won him the rounds.

I'm not a fan of showboating but it wasn't pointless or being done when nothing was going on like SRL spinning his arm for a bolo while standing 8 feet away from his opponent. He was "showboating" while in punching range and making Oscar miss 4,5,6,7 punch combinations at times. Like it or not it was effective and skillful perhaps being one of the best displays of Drunken Master style we have at an elite level in combat sports. People solely talking about it while ignoring everything else are just using it to try justifying the robbery. His showboating > Oscar's offense.

Brilliant defensive display is nothing if you're not throwing back. The rounds Whitaker won, he was more active as far as offense and it won him those rounds. I think the judges had it too wide and the point deduction was bullshit, even still, Oscar barely won it.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I don't believe you. LOL.

Then don't. Like I'm going to go cry in the corner because someone in the internet doesn't believe me.