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  • #11
    Normally Lederman favors aggression a great deal, so it is not surprising he would have thought Maidana did well and it is kind of surprising he only went that far for Maidana.

    He is right though about the difference between ringside and watching on TV, but I wouldn't use the term velocity because I think you can tell speed and direction of the punches (although speed is relative when judging by the eye). I would say force is tougher to judge, sometimes you can judge it because you can just tell those shots hurt but a lot of that has to do with sound and reaction.

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    • #12
      9-3 or 8-4 is what I always get. But when I score, I don't give a lotta credit for glancing blows and I also award "points" for defense when the clean effective punching is close. If you disregard defense, which most people do and gave a Chino full credit for punches Floyd was rolling with and taking the steam out. I could see you having it closer.

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      • #13
        Chino won the fight in sparring gloves the whole world seen it.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by lutenco View Post
          You are all IDIO*S...damn the same persons that now are saying LEDERMAN has right,well i want to remember to you that he score CASTILLO victorious vs your fraud idol.....,OMG how many idio*s fans exist!!
          Get off the form you pathetic waco pac fan !!

          Floyd won the fight! Chino put a good fight but he was beaten, even his own camp said so.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
            Chino won the fight in sparring gloves the whole world seen it.
            The world=people that hate Floyd more than they like p.ussy.

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            • #16
              7-5 floyd all day!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by TyrantT316 View Post
                I don't think I've ever seen a fighter get away with as many hammer down punches on the temple and low punches to the legs as Maidana did in that fight.

                But Mayweather stayed calm and composed.
                Floyd continuously cried to the referee and he continuously pushed the back of Marcos' neck down. He also played the forearm to the throat and never once got warned for it. Floyd did not stay calm and composed. He only appeared to calm down after the referree began to do Floyds bidding in the middle rounds and beyond. It was disgusting how blatant the referrees bias was for Floyd in the fight.

                All a fighter has to do is throw a punch when the other fighter pushes his neck down and if it lands low then heck, don't push his neck down.

                People are complaining because Marcos responded to Floyds dirty tactics. Too bad.

                Marcos didn't tolerate Floyd's cheating and he called him to account for it. Unfortunately the referree changed the fight by clearly taking Floyds side in ot, primarily stopping Chino from working when Floyd was holding him.

                This was a fight that Chino clearly won and the decision was a shame.
                Last edited by Tarl of Bristol; 06-09-2014, 03:53 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Tarl of Bristol View Post
                  Floyd continuously cried to the referee and he continuously pushed the back of Marcos' neck down. He also played the forearm to the throat and never once got warned for it. Floyd did not stay calm and composed. He only appeared to calm down after the referree began to do Floyds bidding in the middle rounds and beyond. It was disgusting how blatant the referrees bias was for Floyd in the fight.

                  All a fighter has to do is throw a punch when the other fighter pushes his neck down and if it lands low then heck, don't push his neck down.

                  People are complaining because Marcos responded to Floyds dirty tactics. Too bad.

                  Marcos didn't tolerate Floyd's cheating and he called him to account for it. Unfortunately the referree changed the fight by clearly taking Floyds side in ot, primarily stopping Chino from working when Floyd was holding him.

                  This was a fight that Chino clearly won and the decision was a shame.
                  Was the ref bias for Floyd when Maidana hit Floyd low during the break in the 1st round. He should've lost a point for that alone.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
                    Was the ref bias for Floyd when Maidana hit Floyd low during the break in the 1st round. He should've lost a point for that alone.
                    Chino wasn't gonna take Floyds nonsense illegal tactics and he responded. Unfortunately the referree caved in to Floyd's *****ing and moaning and as the fight went on he allowed Floyd to continue with his underhanded tactics and he continually admonished Chino. Floyd grabbing Chino and the ref quickly breaking it up only when Chino started working his way out is ridiculous.

                    The fight was basically turned in to a joke the second Robert Garcia allowed Floyd to change the gloves after the ones were already changed for ones that were aproved by the commission.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Tarl of Bristol View Post
                      Chino wasn't gonna take Floyds nonsense illegal tactics and he responded. Unfortunately the referree caved in to Floyd's *****ing and moaning and as the fight went on he allowed Floyd to continue with his underhanded tactics and he continually admonished Chino. Floyd grabbing Chino and the ref quickly breaking it up only when Chino started working his way out is ridiculous.

                      The fight was basically turned in to a joke the second Robert Garcia allowed Floyd to change the gloves after the ones were already changed for ones that were aproved by the commission.
                      Wow. You are truly delusional. Maidana said going in that fighting dirty was going to be part of his strategy. Garcia told him to keep fighting dirty in between rounds. I guess trying to say Mayweather was the one who was fighting dirty is the way to deny how blatantly dirty Maidana fought. Holding behind the head with one hand and throwing punches with the other? Blatantly throwing punches that are aimed for the back of the head? THROWING elbows to the face? Continuous low blows? Head butting and using the top of your head to hold your opponent against the ropes (hence the forearms to the neck and face)? Holding your opponent around the waist and throwing punches. Tackling? Biting? You're blaming Mayweather for the fact that Maidana employed all of those unsportsmanlike tactics and conduct. You and all of the haters are in another world it ain't reality. And you're not a real boxing fan if you condone this level of dirty fighting. The rules are what make it a sport and not just pure gratuitous violence.

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