Past prime double standard (Cotto)

[Curtiz]

Cotto is past prime also but he has two good legs. Which actually matters in a 12 round fight believe it or not.

HAHAHAH killled it

[Fr3$h]

I guess it's only a coincidence that most of the time he was staggering around the ring was right after Cotto hit him with flush left hooks. Or the first knockdown where he face planted from power punches and didn't have problems with his step, as Martinez himself confirmed that it was the first knockdown that decided the fight.

Again, this was a classic case of a built in excuse pre fight. Martinez fans as well as himself were so confident that Cotto was going to be destroyed due to the size difference and being past his prime as supposedly shown in the Trout fight.

What do you want, did you want free leeway to make the craziest predictions pre fight with no consequences later if it appeared that your build in excuse may have been true?

I don't think it is right that the embarassing things that were said before the fight can be excused like this.

The general consensus prediction was correct:
Healthy Martinez stops Cotto
Cotto stops injured Martinez (check)
It was very binary depending on Martinez's knee surgeries

You are getting very emotional and obscene because you love Cotto as a person. Nobody is even bashing Cotto for doing his job. It's disappointment in Martinez for clearly lying, showing up in huge knee braces under XXXL trunks and falling on his ass every time he threw an armpunch.

You seem like you may be a teenager and still in that stage where you have "heroes" you passionately defend because you want to grow up to be like them.

When someone comments on the obvious circumstances of a fight and they don't sound romantic enough to you, you turn red in the face, start squealing and throwing things because you assume the opponent is their "hero" therefore you are sworn enemies. That's not the case. I like watching Cotto and Martinez. This was a depressing fight because one fighter was clearly injured.

Do you understand yet? Or will you merely respond with "STOP CRYIN COTTOZ BALLZ R TASTY AND U CANNOT HANDLE HIS MACHISMO... SAY HELLO 2 THUNDER N LIGHTNIN!! UR BOY GOT OWNED!!"?

[strykr619]

Mate, two knee surgeries aren't an excuse. They are the facts of the situation. Sergio hobbling around the ring like a new born giraffe is something that we could see with their own two eyes.

If Sergio had won, do you think I'd be sitting here and saying he beat a prime, 100% Cotto? No. I said in 2010 that this would be a highly paid cherry pick for Sergio.

Still doesn't change the fact that Martinez stan's were screaming up and down that Cotto would KOed or he would get "destroyed".

Look at my previous posts, I KNEW Cotto would win because Martinez looked shot in his last fight in his homeland. Any Objective boxing fan knew Martinez depended HEAVILY on his mobility which was gone.

Martinez stan's just need to man up and admit they looked past Cotto due to his size and overrated Martinez at this point of his fight career (2010 MARTINEZ is what they HOPED for).

[Curtiz]

The general consensus prediction was correct:
Healthy Martinez stops Cotto
Cotto stops injured Martinez

You are getting very emotional and obscene because you love Cotto as a person. Nobody is even bashing Cotto for doing his job. It's disappointment in Martinez for clearly lying, showing up in huge knee braces under XXXL trunks and falling on his ass every time he threw an armpunch.

You seem like you may be a teenager and still in that stage where you have "heros" you passionately defend because you want to grow up to be like them.

When someone comments on the obvious circumstances of a fight and they don't sound romantic enough to you, you turn red in the face, start squealing and throwing things because you believe the opponent is their "hero". That's not the case. I like watching Cotto and Martinez. This was a depressing fight because one fighter was clearly injured.

Do you understand yet? Or will you merely respond with "STOP CRYIN COTTOZ BALLZ R TASTY AND U CANNOT HANDLE HIS MACHISMO... SAY HELLO 2 THUNDER N LIGHTNIN!! UR BOY GOT OWNED!!"?

So true, Martinez was a dead man limping.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Still doesn't change the fact that Martinez stan's were screaming up and down that Cotto would KOed or he would get "destroyed".

Look at my previous posts, I KNEW Cotto would win because Martinez looked shot in his last fight in his homeland. Any Objective boxing fan knew Martinez depended HEAVILY on his mobility which was gone.

Martinez stan's just need to man up and admit they looked past Cotto due to his size and overrated Martinez at this point of his fight career (2010 MARTINEZ is what they HOPED for).

The Martinez from the Murray fight was much better than the version from last night. I didn't expect such a drastic difference.

[bopbopbbe]

Still doesn't change the fact that Martinez stan's were screaming up and down that Cotto would KOed or he would get "destroyed".

Look at my previous posts, I KNEW Cotto would win because Martinez looked shot in his last fight in his homeland. Any Objective boxing fan knew Martinez depended HEAVILY on his mobility which was gone.

Martinez stan's just need to man up and admit they looked past Cotto due to his size and overrated Martinez at this point of his fight career (2010 MARTINEZ is what they HOPED for).

I mean thats cause everybody thought there was a chance the surgery and injecting stem cells into his knees might of helped him enough to bring back some old Sergio.

[BKM-2010]

He wasn't moving right from the first bell. His right leg was stiff as hell and he couldn't bend it to avoid the left hook.

Predictions are just that. Predictions. No one could know for sure how bad Sergio's knees were. I maintain that a healthy Sergio beats the hell out of Miguel.

I also said Cotto's got good timing and a good jab which would work well. Eventually though, Sergio's speed would tell and he'd land combinations on Cotto because Cotto has poor defence. The reason we didn't see any combinations from Sergio is because his legs wouldn't allow him to follow-up.

During all of this, I never actually denied that Martinez wasn't 100%. I just don't think it's anywhere near the amount of decline that butthurt fanboys are claiming.

And no, despite his right knee not being as flexible and explosive as in his prime(obviously since he's pushing 40 now, injuries or not) he was moving well. Martinez was landing his right jab over and over. BUT, after about the 5th time, Cotto countered his jab with a left hook over the top and Martinez chicken danced, never recovered from this moment onwards, just like he said so himself. Funny how the fanboys act like that first left hook never happened. That happened because Cotto is skilled and took advantage of his opponents mistake.

Everything else after that when it comes to his knees is highlighted because he was dazed from punches to the head, like he said so himself.

And you're still ignoring what I'm saying about Martinez' fans making silly claims before the fight and how you're excusing them.

[FerFAL]

Still doesn't change the fact that Martinez stan's were screaming up and down that Cotto would KOed or he would get "destroyed".

Look at my previous posts, I KNEW Cotto would win because Martinez looked shot in his last fight in his homeland. Any Objective boxing fan knew Martinez depended HEAVILY on his mobility which was gone.

Martinez stan's just need to man up and admit they looked past Cotto due to his size and overrated Martinez at this point of his fight career (2010 MARTINEZ is what they HOPED for).

I predicted that a fully recovered Martinez destroys Cotto, I trully believe that and so does anoyne that knows anything about boxing and knew both fighters. At the same time I said it really depended on how bad his injuries where and if he truly had recovered as he claimed. It is pretty clear he had no real recovery from his last fights and is simply uncapable of the wondeful fast movements he once dazzled us with.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

During all of this, I never actually denied that Martinez wasn't 100%. I just don't think it's anywhere near the amount of decline that butthurt fanboys are claiming.

And no, despite his right knee not being as flexible and explosive as in his prime(obviously since he's pushing 40 now, injuries or not) he was moving well. Martinez was landing his right jab over and over. BUT, after about the 5th time, Cotto countered his jab with a left hook over the top and Martinez chicken danced, never recovered from this moment onwards, just like he said so himself. Funny how the fanboys act like that first left hook never happened. That happened because Cotto is skilled and took advantage of his opponents mistake.

Everything else after that when it comes to his knees is highlighted because he was dazed from punches to the head, like he said so himself.

And you're still ignoring what I'm saying about Martinez' fans making silly claims before the fight and how you're excusing them.

Well I'll let you tell it however you want. No point in trying to reason.

[A.K]

anyone who thought martinez would do anything against a good fighter is dumb because hes plainly has NO DEFENSE , not just last night but in ALL his fights. You just cant win against a good fighter with no defense.