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Are you people crazy?
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You're going to feel pretty ****** on here either later tonight or tomorrow if you decide to come back.
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I'm kind of suprised that, as such a Martinez fan you are unaware of his incredible second wind he always finds in the middle of a fight. Like the one that helped him pull away from Pavlik when it seemed like he was starting to lose somewhere around 5 or 6. The dude is a champion for a reason. Look no futher than the JccJr fight for a reference on his stamina.Originally posted by PurePugilist216 View PostNot just his knee, he’s older, and has been pretty inactive. I predict by the 6th round he’ll be huffing and puffin out his mouth, his offense his defense. That style never translates will with age.
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Exactly. Until the weight in where the size difference was so stark, I thought the fight was pretty even. Now that I see how much bigger Maravilla is, it's hard for me imagining Cotto wining unless Sergio is just completely not the same guy who beat Williams, Pavlik and JCCJr.Originally posted by vaborikua2014 View PostI'm a huge huge cotto fan but right now I'm starting to think miguel might get Kod tonight
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion but he also beat Pavlik and took the lineal championship held by Hopkins and Taylor. Then he knocked out three other quality guys as an encore. The guy is not overrated. (not that Cotto is)Originally posted by vErDuGo View PostI got my money on Cotto. Martinez is so overrated.
Beating a Paul Williams as his biggest win doesn't convince me that he's one of the elites.
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Good post and the jury is still out on how good Murray is as well.Originally posted by Njord777 View PostI feel like to have any certainty about this fight is to believe in certain unknowables that the world outside of Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto have no insight into.
Is Sergio 100%? We don't know.
Is Miguel actually improving under Roach? We can't say for sure.
To harp on Martinez's last shaky performance against Murray, and not admit that Miguel Cotto was not able to get it done against Austin Trout- a type of guy we KNOW Cotto could have handled a few years prior- isn't fair.
To say "Miguel just didn't train hard enough for Trout" is basically the same as saying "Sergio was just hobbled by injury with Murray".
To say Miguel trained harder and is the Cotto of old is more or less saying Martinez has recuperated from all surgeries and is close to the Maravilla of old. We just don't know. None of us on these forums can know.
It's the entire reason this fight is so intriguing. Perhaps after the first 3 minutes we can all see where each guy stands, but at this point we're all making guesses as to how much Cotto and how much Martinez have left.
All we have for CERTAINTY is the Cotto who couldn't get past Trout and the Martinez who couldn't outclass Murray.
Everything past that is pure speculation.
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Yup, a very brutal and bloody soap opera. Sort of like my fix since Dexter ended.Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostI know, I'm on the fence myself. I just can't cope with this. I have a problem.........
I'm like b*tches and soap opera's.
This is our soap opera in a way boys. (no ****)
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