William Joppy says Felix Trinidad should not be in hall of fame, calls him "a cheat"

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**Bump** This **** is old..What's the problem? You can't dig up any other old dirt?

PRPP

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Where was that plaster? I didn't see any.

What Trinidad tried to do was something illegal. What do we call people that do illegal things in boxing?

It's called doing a "Margarito or Margarita" depending on your mood..

PRPP

[BattlingNelson]

Still trying to find that damn article, but here's a nice thread that contains the comments of various boxing people from Teddy Atlas to Marc Ratner (director of NSAC at the time) on the subject of Tito's wraps.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=537739

Poor Joppy. He has evidently been butthurt for many years now lol.

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Here's a very detailed interview with Naazim Richardson that NATAS took the time to type up from RING magazine after the Margarito incident. In it, he discusses both handwrap controversies.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=321500

"Trinidad was an abrasion against the rules. Margarito downright had a weapon. There is a difference when you say you're playing chess and have your men lined up differently, as opposed to having extra men on the board. Margarito tried to bring extra men. He had a knuckle pad."

[Mr.Fantastic]

It's called doing a "Margarito or Margarita" depending on your mood..

PRPP

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Poor Joppy. He has evidently been butthurt for many years now lol.

You'd think he'd be more pissed about Hopkins.

Hopkins beat him up much worse than Trinidad did, IMO. Trinidad disposed of him quite easily and quickly, whereas Hopkins put a beating on him for a full 12 rounds.

If it was me - I'd much rather blame the downfall of my career on a sustained beating over the course of 12 rounds than blaming it on a relatively quick 5th round TKO.

I'd think the type of sustained beating he got from Hopkins would have a much worse effect on his career and health than the quick KO Tito gave him.

[vaborikua2014]

Richardson clears Trinidad's name in wrap scandal.

Trinidad Wraps were much different than Margarito's


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To me, Trinidad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trinidad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand.
The Ring: What happened in Trinidad's locker room?*NR:*When I came into the room, I think it was his left hand that was already wrapped. I asked for the bylaws about hand wraps before the fight. I didn't see the hand get wrapped. Someone from Hopkins' camp had to be there to witness the hands being wrapped. I spoke to a commissioner about it. he said that he was there to watch his hand get wrapped. Then I asked him, "Do you work for the Hopkins camp??" I think I asked him twice. He said, no, so I told the commissioner I wanted to see Trinidad get his hands wrapped again - both of them.

Before you know it, Papa Trinidad flipped out and went off, and people in the room started threatening me (laughs). They said I was scared. I told them I don't have to fight Trinidad tonight, what do I have to be scared about (laughs)? They were telling me Bernard was going to get knocked out. I didn't want to budge from what I knew was right. If something happened to Bernard, and something came out later about Trinidad's hand wraps, I would have blamed myself. It would have been because I didn't do my job.

The Ring:*How crazy did it get?

NR:*Real crazy. The Trinidad people brought in the HBO people and

The Ring: What did you see?

NR. I noticed that Papa was layering too much tape and gauze on Tito's hand, and that wasn't allowed.
It was amazing. The commission was there, watching and no one said anything. Papa Trinidad said that every time they fought at MSG, that's the way he wrapped his hands. I told him, "Not against my guy."

The athletic commission told him the proper way to wrap the hand and he wrapped it the right way. Watching another fighter get his hands wrapped, which would normally take 10, maybe 15 minutes, took an hour to get resolved. I wasn't budging from my stands. That's because I was right, backed by fact. I had to say something. There were no doubts whatsoever. There's nothing I would change from that night. I can smile, because I like being in position to protect my guy. The rest is history.

Think about this: No one before or since stopped William Joppy the way Trinidad did to him. I don't know and I can't say if Trinidad wrapped his hands a certain way or not in any of his previous fights. All I can say is what I saw that night with Bernard.*I watched Bernard beat Joppy to death, but no one put him down like Trinidad did. That's all I can say."
ummmmm Eastman rocked the hell out of Joppy, and he's no power puncher, Hopkins has never been a huge ****er, Trinidad has been known as one his entire career, that's all there is to it

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****m richardson : To me, Trinidad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trinidad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand.

[BattlingNelson]

Here's a very detailed interview with Naazim Richardson that NATAS took the time to type up from RING magazine after the Margarito incident. In it, he discusses both handwrap controversies.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=321500

Seems like Tito had too much tape and gauze, but no tape directly on the skin.

[Luilun]

Trinidad did get busted in the next fight from the same guy that got Margarito.


I agree with his stance on steroids in a way. It would be a good deterrent for guys at the elite level.

So the guy who has 3 failed steroid test should not get in even though he wears a hat that say's TBE