William Joppy says Felix Trinidad should not be in hall of fame, calls him "a cheat"

[Bigg Rigg]

Trinidad did get busted in the next fight from the same guy that got Margarito.


I agree with his stance on steroids in a way. It would be a good deterrent for guys at the elite level.

forced to re wrap your hands is not the same as having plaster.

Joppy is still mad he got ko'd like what 13-14 years later? As for Tito's wraps, I doubt some extra tape and gauze is going to turn someone into a monster puncher.....it was nothing at all like Marg's situation.

Exactly!!

[BattlingNelson]

I'm absolutely positive.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/200...ands-hand-wrap

It was all a big fuss over a particular wrapping technique, but people like to act like he was busted with plaster or some ****. Probably because they didn't even start watching boxing until De La Hoya/Mayweather so they have no perspective on what actually transpired.

I may be wrong on the legality of it in Tito's prior fights but - His wraps had been signed off on by State-appointed athletic directors for his entire career up until the Hopkins bout, so I think it's highly unlikely that he was doing something incredibly dubious or illegal.

It was just the way his dad wrapped his hands.

Yeah, but that says nothing about tape directly on the skin.

It's a trick of the old timer prizefighters. Some of them used bicycletape directly on the knocklearea. During the fight it 'curled' and became hardened so the fist was like a club. I find it hard to believe this method would be legal anywhere.

[-Johannes-]

Joppy is still mad he got ko'd like what 13-14 years later? As for Tito's wraps, I doubt some extra tape and gauze is going to turn someone into a monster puncher.....it was nothing at all like Marg's situation.

Wasn't Marg's insert as big and as think as a business card?

[Interloper]

Yeah, but that says nothing about tape directly on the skin.

It's a trick of the old timer prizefighters. Some of them used bicycletape directly on the knocklearea. During the fight it 'curled' and became hardened so the fist was like a club. I find it hard to believe this method would be legal anywhere.

Cured, not curled.

[ßringer]

Yeah, but that says nothing about tape directly on the skin.

It's a trick of the old timer prizefighters. Some of them used bicycletape directly on the knocklearea. During the fight it 'curled' and became hardened so the fist was like a club. I find it hard to believe this method would be legal anywhere.

I'll see if I can find the original article I read about it and I'll bump the thread with the link if I'm successful.

It wasn't tape directly on the first. It was tape directly on the wrist.

[Mr.Fantastic]

forced to re wrap your hands is not the same as having plaster.



Exactly!!

Where was that plaster? I didn't see any.

What Trinidad tried to do was something illegal. What do we call people that do illegal things in boxing?

[BattlingNelson]

I'll see if I can find the original article I read about it and I'll bump the thread with the link if I'm successful.

It wasn't tape directly on the first. It was tape directly on the wrist.

Wrist or fist. AFAIK both are illegal.

[ßringer]

Still trying to find that damn article, but here's a nice thread that contains the comments of various boxing people from Teddy Atlas to Marc Ratner (director of NSAC at the time) on the subject of Tito's wraps.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=537739

[ßringer]

Wrist or fist. AFAIK both are illegal.

Indeed.

But I think there's a huge distinction between the two. Tape on a fist could be seen as something to give a fighter added power (a lot of trainers disagree), but tape on the wrist, as far as I know, is a stability/protection issue so you don't **** your wrist up.

There's a clear difference in intent there.

[AntonTheMeh]

joppy's defense was ass in that fight. his dumb ass thought he'd be able to handle a former welterweights power, and after he got damn near decapitated, the butt hurt set in.