Abner Mares is signing with Al Haymon

[Rocky Rode]

Who brought us the best fights since the Cold War started? Schaeffer and Haymon! So fans should really watch what they say about Mares joining them to duck good fights.

Schaeffer as many people have already said grew Golden Boy not De La Hoya so Mares decision is justified

What are you talking about?? There's been good fights by everyone since the Cold War started. A majority of them had nothing to do with GBP and Haymon

Bradley-Provodnikov was fight of the year 2013. Rios-Alvarado, Kirkland-Tapia, Segura-Tyson Marquez were also some FOTY candidates that had nothing to do with Haymon.

Pacquiao-Marquez was fight of the year 2012.

Sure, Haymon made Matthysse-Garcia, Maidana-Broner, etc. But don't act like they're responsible for the best fights. They're not

[Jsmooth9876]

signing with the most respected advisor known for getting career paydays for his clients and that would disappoint you?? backwards ass mentality you dudes have these days

Sucking off a guy who doesn't want to do business with other promoters and make great fight...that's what is backwards...

[R_Walken]

Good for Mares. So right now it looks like GB will have exclusive control of Canelo and a bunch of b-sides, their future looking real bright with Oscar behind the wheel. It'll all become apparent after the Canelo/Lara card.

Mares signing is just further proof that GB is most likely hooped. B-hop is a part owner and won't even commit to GB. Floyd dropped them.

Anyone else think its a coincidence that most of the bigger name younger Established HBO fighters are in contract dispute ( Ward, M Garcia, Chavez )
Would anyone be surprised if they can get free their probably going to Haymon too the way things are going.

[radioraheem]

What are you talking about?? There's been good fights by everyone since the Cold War started. A majority of them had nothing to do with GBP and Haymon

Bradley-Provodnikov was fight of the year 2013. Rios-Alvarado, Kirkland-Tapia, Segura-Tyson Marquez were also some FOTY candidates that had nothing to do with Haymon.

Pacquiao-Marquez was fight of the year 2012.

Sure, Haymon made Matthysse-Garcia, Maidana-Broner, etc. But don't act like they're responsible for the best fights. They're not

I don't even think it's fair to compare.

GB clearly had the bigger fights. GB had Matthysse vs. Garcia, Matthysse vs. Molina (this is a fight of year candidate too), Garcia vs. Herrera, Mayweather vs. Maidana, Mayweather vs. Canelo, Canelo vs. Lara is coming up soon, Guerrero vs. Berto, Porter vs. Brook is coming up soon, Maidana vs. Broner, and so forth.

It's unfair to compare because Top Rank simply has much less fighters to pair against each other. They have limited fighters, so they have no choice but to recycle fights and force fights even if they aren't in the same division. Also, all the big fights from GB, Haymon usually had one fighter or both.

Who is Pacquaio going to fight next for example? Marquez again? Who is Bradley going to fight next? Provodnikov again? Marquez again? So the comparison isn't fair to me.

[Hougigo]

Evidently Mares's manager (I think it's Espinoza) is taking a stand against this

[Accountoffline]

Need to get my eyes checked, I read this as Abner Mares is sleeping with Al Haymon

Fuck the old age!

[Hougigo]

While there are reports that Abner Mares will ink with Al Haymom, word is that he msy not be off the hook with Frank Espinoza just yet

— Steve Kim (@stevemaxboxing) June 6, 2014

[Rocky Rode]

I don't even think it's fair to compare.

GB clearly had the bigger fights. GB had Matthysse vs. Garcia, Matthysse vs. Molina (this is a fight of year candidate too), Garcia vs. Herrera, Mayweather vs. Maidana, Mayweather vs. Canelo, Canelo vs. Lara is coming up soon, Guerrero vs. Berto, Porter vs. Brook is coming up soon, Maidana vs. Broner, and so forth.

It's unfair to compare because Top Rank simply has much less fighters to pair against each other. They have limited fighters, so they have no choice but to recycle fights and force fights even if they aren't in the same division. Also, all the big fights from GB, Haymon usually had one fighter or both.

Who is Pacquaio going to fight next for example? Marquez again? Who is Bradley going to fight next? Provodnikov again? Marquez again? So the comparison isn't fair to me.

You're probably right. GBP does have a better roster than Top Rank. However, I wasn't looking at this strictly as a GBP-Top Rank comparison. Quillin supposedly couldn't fight GGG because of the cold war and he's not promoted by Top Rank...That was a GBP/Al Haymon-HBO problem

Froch-Groves(probably the biggest fight so far this year), Provodnikov-Alvarado, Marquez-Alvarado(they sold out Forum and got solid ratings), GGG-Macklin, Lebedev-Jones, hell even Chavez-Vera I and II(best TV ratings). You want to bring up fights that haven't even happened? Then bring up Cotto-Martinez, Crawford-Gamboa(since they've already sold 10k+ tickets), Geale-Golovkin, and so on. These aren't/weren't all Top Rank, but a majority are/were. Some were international fights, but HBO or Top Rank played a huge role in almost all of them and they were(for the most part) damn good fights.

[radioraheem]

You're probably right. GBP does have a better roster than Top Rank. However, I wasn't looking at this strictly as a GBP-Top Rank comparison. Quillin supposedly couldn't fight GGG because of the cold war and he's not promoted by Top Rank...That was a GBP/Al Haymon-HBO problem

Froch-Groves(probably the biggest fight so far this year), Provodnikov-Alvarado, Marquez-Alvarado(they sold out Forum and got solid ratings), GGG-Macklin, Lebedev-Jones, hell even Chavez-Vera I and II(best TV ratings). You want to bring up fights that haven't even happened? Then bring up Cotto-Martinez, Crawford-Gamboa(since they've already sold 10k+ tickets), Geale-Golovkin, and so on. These aren't/weren't all Top Rank, but a majority are/were. Some were international fights, but HBO or Top Rank played a huge role in almost all of them and they were(for the most part) damn good fights.

HBO Sports President Ken Hershman sat down with SI.com for a Q/A on the state of HBO Boxing.


SI.com: OK, I've got to ask: Did you consider approving Peter Quillin as Golovkin's next opponent?

KH: We're open to anybody who is willing to step up and fight Gennady Golovkin. You see a lot of people in the press saying they want to fight him but when the rubber meets the road, when it's time to put your signature on a piece of paper, there are creative ways out. I'm not suggesting Peter wouldn't sign. But we weren't exploring that for July. It wasn't offered to us for July. Nobody said, 'Hey, Peter Quillin is ready to take on Gennady Golovkin.' I think Peter would be a terrific test for Golovkin. A unification would be fantastic. We don't rule anything out. It's just got to sync up with our timing and our business objective."

SI.com: I ask because we know who promotes Quillin...

KH: The quality of the fight is unquestionable. Whether there is a business approach that syncs up to ours remains unknown. We're open to the conversation. We want to make investments in fighters we can get a return on."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mma...#ixzz33uRfVtHE

[Rocky Rode]

HBO Sports President Ken Hershman sat down with SI.com for a Q/A on the state of HBO Boxing.


SI.com: OK, I've got to ask: Did you consider approving Peter Quillin as Golovkin's next opponent?

KH: We're open to anybody who is willing to step up and fight Gennady Golovkin. You see a lot of people in the press saying they want to fight him but when the rubber meets the road, when it's time to put your signature on a piece of paper, there are creative ways out. I'm not suggesting Peter wouldn't sign. But we weren't exploring that for July. It wasn't offered to us for July. Nobody said, 'Hey, Peter Quillin is ready to take on Gennady Golovkin.' I think Peter would be a terrific test for Golovkin. A unification would be fantastic. We don't rule anything out. It's just got to sync up with our timing and our business objective."

SI.com: I ask because we know who promotes Quillin...

KH: The quality of the fight is unquestionable. Whether there is a business approach that syncs up to ours remains unknown. We're open to the conversation. We want to make investments in fighters we can get a return on."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mma...#ixzz33uRfVtHE

I don't get why you're showing me this. I say Quillin can't fight GGG because of Cold War and you show me a quote with Hershman saying they aren't looking for a July Quillin-GGG fight... Are you just agreeing with me or..?

Either way, here's a quote from Quillin himself saying he can't fight because of Cold War:

“Golden Boy will try to get whatever opponent they can for me," Quillin said. "I’m an American champion. A lot of those other guys, they come to our country to fight over here to fight in our homeland, and I’ve always said I was hoping to fight Sergio Martinez, Gennady Golovkin, all these different guys, but it’s not really my fault, the political thing going on. All I have to do is keeping doing me."
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/t.../peter-quillin