Should the Cruiserweight division go away/reduced in limit?

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  • FistoftheDallasStar
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    #11
    I agree with you Box office. It should be 190 lbs. I actually never knew they changed it. I always thought of cruiserweight to be the place where over weight LightHeavyweights could fight before they either jumped up to heavy or lost the weight to go back down to LHW. It was almost a hidden amateur division where some greats got better. Holyfield benefited greatly from the cruiserweight divison being at 190 lbs.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
      this is boxing cant we just allow guys to weigh in at 195 if it means top condition for them and still fight a HW fight?
      They don't have to weigh 200 or more to fight at HW, they can already weigh 195 if they want.

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        • Chuckguy
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          #14
          Get rid of it! It's a pointless boring az weight class? When have u seen aPPV or even a main event on HBO or Showtime? Never. Eliminate it and have heavy weight 176-235 and super heavyweight 236 and up

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            #15
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            Get rid of it! It's a pointless boring az weight class? When have u seen aPPV or even a main event on HBO or Showtime? Never. Eliminate it and have heavy weight 176-235 and super heavyweight 236 and up
            That is so ****** guys 40-50lbs apart fighting each other lets have Rigo fight Froch next?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              That is so ****** guys 40-50lbs apart fighting each other lets have Rigo fight Froch next?
              Ok good point but it still needs to be eliminated. Just have HW at 195 and super heavy at 235+

              Those who are in between 175 and 195 need to eithergain weight or lose weight or pick another profession

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                #17
                Originally posted by Chuckguy
                Ok good point but it still needs to be eliminated. Just have HW at 195 and super heavy at 235+

                Those who are in between 175 and 195 need to eithergain weight or lose weight or pick another profession
                It's not as easy as that, I take it you've never been in the ring with a HW being outweighed by about 28lbs is hard enough let alone someone 50lbs heavier.

                If they can have ****** weightclasses such as Flyweight, Straw weight and so why not Cruiserweight?

                The CW's are much more exciting than the HW's they bring power and agility unlike fat Arreolas and slow arse Mormecks

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  Get rid of it! It's a pointless boring az weight class? When have u seen aPPV or even a main event on HBO or Showtime? Never. Eliminate it and have heavy weight 176-235 and super heavyweight 236 and up
                  Pointless? yes, but boring? No.

                  In fact keep it if they want to get in those sanctioning fees, but drop it to it's original 190lbs limit.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Humean
                    The Cruiserweight is very necessary, the gap in weight between the top heavyweights today and light-heavyweight is enormous. Historically that was not the case. The division has also been far more entertaining than the heavyweight division in recent years.
                    It is and hence why I lean on the argument of limit reduction than getting rid of it altogether. I'd say 190lbs. Yes, it has been entertaining, but if they had the tag of HWs those fights would've been broadcasted across the pond and cared about more.

                    Originally posted by MBE
                    Am I right in assuming you want to market some cruiser weights as heavyweights? But the problem is they are too small against the really big guys in the division.

                    I think the solution should be to create a professional super heavyweight division for the guys that dwarth traditional sized heavyweights.
                    You are correct.

                    Those Cruisers wouldn't have been Cruisers to begin with given it was at the 190lbs limit.

                    As for SHW there is too much tradition that would get watered down, because the whole prestige of being HW champ is being the biggest and baddest guy in boxing, so SHW would kinda ruin/kill that.

                    Originally posted by Badzi87
                    I think its hard, I've done my bit at Cruiser and although I've hurt bigger HW's, we always wore 16oz gloves, I really wouldn't want to be punched by a guy who weighs 240lbs+ when I was around 204lbs with 8oz gloves.

                    It's not easy and it can be done, the guys I spar with have told me on multiple occasions I hit harder than the HW's they spar with but at 5'10 I don't like being in with a guy over 6'3 and a reach way longer, its ridiculously hard to get into range with the BIG guys.

                    I like CW and i'll continue to spar at that weight with other Cruisers.

                    I think you know you're limits and mine is at CW anything more is out of my comfort zone.
                    At 147lbs you have the choice of either 8 or 10oz, but above that it is mandatory to have 10oz.

                    I see what you mean about being hit by heavy guys and no it's not fun at all. You also have to realize that aside from Wlad and Fury the HWs aren't as humongous, but I think that K bros dominated for so long we don't even think about that.

                    Stiverne, Wilder, Thompson, Chisora, Pulev, Povetkin and Adamek are all 6"5 and less. I think Tony.T is 6'6. So, really you have people messing around at Cruiser where as they could've been fighting as Heavies and be more relevant. People who haven't paid attention at Cruiser don't realize the good stuff they missed out in recent years. So, if they were called HWs it would've mattered.

                    Even assuming most HWs are huge the Cruisers can come in heavier as well as there is no limit.
                    Last edited by Box-Office; 06-05-2014, 12:36 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      Maybe make it some odd number further from HW so its not just a "little HW" division that no one cares about like 187lb limit for bigger guys who no way are making 175 but are too small for HW to fight there and can make this weight. I am talking about guys who walk around at 195-210.
                      As long as it's 190lbs or less.

                      Originally posted by House of Stone
                      it's fine as it is. the guys you mentioned can already fight at heavyweight if they want to but are not being forced to fight at heavyweight ... weighing like 195 and being forced to fight a guy who weighs 250 ain't exactly sweet.
                      They can come in heavier as there is no limit above Cruiser. If not then they can stay at 190lbs the original Cruiser limit.

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