Oscar needs to take good care of his relationship with Arum and try to learn some tips from the master. He's old and won't be around for long, so DLH needs to take advantage of it. You won't learn anything from amateurs like Schaefer and Haymon. Theirs is short-term.
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Why do so many people hate on Bob Arum?
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Promoting fights is a tough business. Arum is no different than say Don KIng in his hayday. The only difference is Arum may have better lawyers and advisers. Sure, he may be a snake but boxing is not regulated by one organization giving the snakes a clear road to prosper.
De La Hoya is just as much a snake.
"What you do when ya gotta make paper? Kill to make a mill then people hate cha. Run that game kid before you go like vapors. Get that loot save that legal **** for later. " - Channel Live
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Originally posted by BigAlexSand View PostJust like Floyd, the two are truly bad for the business of boxing. The both are destroying the sports integrity and at the same time making millions.
I am a fan of Floyd as a Boxer but as a promoter, he and Arum are the same... Two new Don Kings
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Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View PostBob is smarmy and has an old school style of running his business. He is willing to put guys in tough fights that they can lose. He does this in order to build up future match ups or acquire new opportunities for the fighter to maximize their (and his) lifetime earning potential. Ultimately it's up to the fighter to win and continue to make money.
This new generation of fighters/managers hate the idea of tough fights for lower pay. This "lower pay" is still more than 90% of fighters in other combat sports, but the idea of a loss is too much for them and their pride. We can thank Floyd's TMT promotions for popularizing the new school of thought where any loss is perceived as a serious blow to an individual's market value. Therefore minimizing risk is seen as the most important aspect to a talented fighter's career. They don't realize how badly this damages the sport due to the mismatches and the fear of losing their status, crippling their gross income in the long term up to and including their careers after boxing. Fans are left unsatisfied as the buildup drama to the fight is more entertaining than the fights themselves.
Thus, I prefer the devil I know in Bob Arum than this new wave of promotional companies who are looking to sell fight based on perceived drama outside of the ring rather than the action taking place inside the ring.
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Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View PostBob is smarmy and has an old school style of running his business. He is willing to put guys in tough fights that they can lose. He does this in order to build up future match ups or acquire new opportunities for the fighter to maximize their (and his) lifetime earning potential. Ultimately it's up to the fighter to win and continue to make money.
This new generation of fighters/managers hate the idea of tough fights for lower pay. This "lower pay" is still more than 90% of fighters in other combat sports, but the idea of a loss is too much for them and their pride. We can thank Floyd's TMT promotions for popularizing the new school of thought where any loss is perceived as a serious blow to an individual's market value. Therefore minimizing risk is seen as the most important aspect to a talented fighter's career. They don't realize how badly this damages the sport due to the mismatches and the fear of losing their status, crippling their gross income in the long term up to and including their careers after boxing. Fans are left unsatisfied as the buildup drama to the fight is more entertaining than the fights themselves.
Thus, I prefer the devil I know in Bob Arum than this new wave of promotional companies who are looking to sell fight based on perceived drama outside of the ring rather than the action taking place inside the ring.
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Originally posted by Edmond Dantes View PostReally?! Arumtards exist... But I shouldn't be surprised, this is NSB after all
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Originally posted by JoeMan View PostYou already saw the pathetic $1.5 million Maidana got from a bigger shark, Mayweather, while Rios got $4 million. Need I mention how much Bradley and Marquez made fighting Pacman? And you're still a Flotard? Really?
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And you can flip it and say Pacquiao fanatics are the only ones who defend and pretend to tolerate Arum, because thats what it is.. "Pretending" I have no obsession over Mayweather or Pacquiao so I can call it down the middle. He is a snake, none of his fighters know how much they make off each fight, he doesnt show em the books. He STARTED the cold war that we are in today in the sport, people tend to forget all his comments about not working with GBP "**** them" and all that instead pointed the blame at Richard because of his close relationship with Mayweather. He tries to force his fighters into signing long term contracts before they get their "big fight" and doesnt pay em accordingly, Im also convinced he got Pacquiao beat in the first bradley fight, and got Pacquiao the win in the 3rd fight with Marquez to ensure rematches because he knew he had few options for Pacquiao. Hes out of touch with fans, thinking we dont like seeing undercards and whenever someone proposes a matchup, he doesnt talk about how it would be a great fight, he just talks about how much money he can make off the fight. He leaves a bad taste in my mouth, the old school code for promoters is to keep your fighter broke, and keep him fighting, with the way hes handling Pacquiao, he fits that mold.
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