Mayweather jr the biggest duck in the history of the sport?

[Chaos]

Cool but it comes down to the double standards IMO. Every move FMJ makes he is held accountable. But if Manny makes a certain move its the he is not so smart or his english isnt that good or etc. I believe both have access to top notch advisors if they want to. Also to believe that someone who is in politics doesnt know how to make people compensate for their shortcomings is crazy to me. Thats what politicians do all the time.

Regarding FMJ legacy: it is too obvious that a lot of people hate has gone through the roof regarding FMJ. In general they stick with name-calling and the likes. i cant take the majority of the haters serious. The truth IMO is more likely than not that both werent eager to make the fight and they have fanboys fighting and chosing sides.

To me the first negotiations were as legit as can be. 50/50 solves all the money debate. and asking for a test isnt irrelevant in sport and i can see an athlete asking for that, i've got no problem with that. If FMJ really allready signed his side of the contract and the only thing from preventing the fight to happen and making multiple millions is a test, than i cant blame FMJ. Asking for a test isnt outrageous/crazy IMO. In conconclusion if FMJ signed his side of the contract the first time as is said IMO, he isnt a duck in my history book. For all the other fights that didnt happen... i dont know all the timelines and variables needed to judge that properly. But a lot of big fighters are seen as duckers. David Haye and even the GREAT, GREAT, GREAT Wlad. Klitsko is said to have ducked Chisora ones upon a time. moral of the story most greats will have an asterix...

You're full of sh_t. The only reason he asked for tests (something he'd never done before) is because he knew Pac had a needle phobia. Even so Manny agreed to tests up to 4 weeks before the fight and one immediately after. Floyd wanted up to 2 weeks before even though it makes no difference in terms of juicing. So Pac countered with 3 weeks before but Floyd refused. Then Pac agreed to anytime and Floyd wouldn't agree to 50-50. Now Floyd says Pac has to change promoters. Stop trying to rewrite history you silly monkey.

[Horus]

Lol i remember canelo losing to the duck

I remember JMM and Cotto and oh yeah De la hoya losing as well..

JMM and De la hoya = Pacquiao greatest wins #just saying

[Horus]

Says a lot about this era when a JOKE is considered the best fighter in the world by his peers, pro trainers, and analyst

Regardless how you feel about him outside of tge ring, no one can take away what he has done

Numbers dont lie

Fighters don't think Floyd's the best what r u talking about...

[junior gong]

Fighters don't think Floyd's the best what r u talking about...

The most notorious, bumsniffing floydgimper of them all....Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you .....Horus!!!!

[Chaos]

I remember JMM and Cotto and oh yeah De la hoya losing as well..

JMM and De la hoya = Pacquiao greatest wins #just saying

Except jmm didn't jump two weight classes (leaving 135 for the first time) to fight Pac, Floyd won a split against DLH and decisioned Cotto (taking a lot of damage in the process) whereas Pac stopped both of them. #just saying

[junior gong]

Except jmm didn't jump two weight classes (leaving 135 for the first time) to fight Pac, Floyd won a split against DLH and decisioned Cotto (taking a lot of damage in the process) whereas Pac stopped both of them. #just saying

Yeah, but did Pacquiao convert his jetski into an ocean going liner doe? #just saying horus is a bellend

[Horus]

Except jmm didn't jump two weight classes (leaving 135 for the first time) to fight Pac, Floyd won a split against DLH and decisioned Cotto (taking a lot of damage in the process) whereas Pac stopped both of them. #just saying

Pac got knocked out by JMM after Floyd beat him.
Then proceeded to lose to Tim Bradley
#Just Saying

[Chaos]

Pac got knocked out by JMM after Floyd beat him.
Then proceeded to lose to Tim Bradley
#Just Saying

Sorry he didn't actually lose to Bradley and destroyed him in the rematch, and he's 3-1 against Marquez and always fought him at a natural weight for both fighters, whereas Floyd made him jump two weight classes. #Just Saying

[junior gong]

Sorry he didn't actually lose to Bradley and destroyed him in the rematch, and he's 3-1 against Marquez and always fought him at a natural weight for both fighters, whereas Floyd made him jump two weight classes. #Just Saying

And cheated him on the scales..#just saying

[mourinho1]

You're full of sh_t. The only reason he asked for tests (something he'd never done before) is because he knew Pac had a needle phobia. Even so Manny agreed to tests up to 4 weeks before the fight and one immediately after. Floyd wanted up to 2 weeks before even though it makes no difference in terms of juicing. So Pac countered with 3 weeks before but Floyd refused. Then Pac agreed to anytime and Floyd wouldn't agree to 50-50. Now Floyd says Pac has to change promoters. Stop trying to rewrite history you silly monkey.

First i started laughing HARD really hard!!! then i looked at the date you subscribed and then i was shocked honestly shocked.

You are amongst those pacman supporters who believe manny is a holy person. A perfect person. A far better person than the avarage boxer out there. Listen...

He isnt perfect:

he is a gambler just like so many mortals on this planet!

source:http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiaos...no-more--53751

other source: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/201...for-the-Faith/

A Great Fall

The world soon witnessed Pacquiao conquer every opponent in the boxing ring. But as his boxing career soared, he succumbed to temptations that pounded heavily on him.

"I went to church on Sunday, but from Monday to Saturday, I was in the bar drinking," he recalled. "I was ********. Careless words came out of my mouth. I committed adultery. I didn't care."

also: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...spiritual-path

this guy seems to have spindocters all over.

last but not least:


In short i dont believe manny is an above avarage good guy. I dont know tbh how much he gives to charities...

But one thing i do know quite sure, is that manny is a person that just says whatever suits his agenda, and he is lucky that the majority of his followers believe in him blindly. his followers actually believe that if he goes on national television and says that he wants to fight FMJ and his line is open 24/7, that this is relevant. They actually think that all that PR talk is the end all be all. Going on espn firsttake talking all that shhh. While in the meanwhile when push comes to shove he signs an rumoured exclusive HBO contract. i thought actions speak louder than words.

Most FMJ fans can own up atleast when FMJ isnt consistent, and agree and own up when he talks BS a good example is the ''Manny your next''!!!

But to think and defend manny blindly thinking everything he says is the truth and he is an angel, that goes beyond my comprehension. claiming he will give 18M dollars to charity during the rios fight. Common we all know FMJ isnt perfect, cant we agree that manny isnt either.

History in my book both werent eager but about FMJ it cant be said that he made the fight impossible. he signed his part of the contract money devided 50/50. I dont see many 147-fighters beating alvarez, the moment FMJ agreed to fight Canelo i was convinced that he was willing to take a risk and not a chicken ducker IMO. eventhough being critical on FMJ there are rumours that his camp tried to weight drain Canelo...

source: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...rday-megafight

"They wanted me to go to 147,'' Alvarez said earlier this week when he said he was already down to 154 pounds. "I said that was physically impossible. Then they wanted 150 and then 151. I wanted to make the fight, so I agreed to 152. Then they forced me to be quiet about it.''