So is there anyone out there who acually believes Anthony Joshua is a clean athlete?

[alexguiness]

Who knows how long he may have been taking performance enhancers?

You're saying he currently has no motivation to cheat because he could potentially ruin a lucrative career, but the only reason he has lucrative career is because he won gold at the Olympics. So wouldn't you say that the prospect of winning an Olympic gold medal is enough motivation to cheat?

Obviously he doesn't need an edge to beat the standard of opposition he's currently facing, but he won't be facing that same standard in a year's time.

So, using your logic...

He cheated Olympic testing to win a gold medal.

And now he is cheating at Professional level to become a World Champion.

I am not saying that he is 100% clean or not, I just would like to see some kind of logical argument and evidence to underpin the comments saying he is using PED's.

Not just, WOW! he is really big and ripped so he MUST be on PEDs.

Until proven otherwise EVERY athlete is considered clean.

Again, using the type of ridiculous logic here it is like saying every black person MUST be a criminal - ergo, every boxer with large muscle mass who wins MUST be on PEDs?

It is just not right to generalise / speculate in that way IMO.

With JMM there is some circumstantial evidence which IS much more incriminating, the acne, hypertrophy, increased KO power and his medical team.

With AJ there is just the fact that he is a very big guy, with very low body fat.

That's it.

[PainfromUkraine]

Posted this a while ago - size difference is funny - the guy on the 2nd left is also a heavyweight, then obviously SMW Froch, and that sheer size difference of AJ...

[FrankieBruno]

if you dedicate ur life to training and eat the right amount of protein, carbs and fats, eat meals on time, sleep on time, and have good genetics, u to can earn urself an amazing figure.

you can put on 1lb -2lb of muscle on once a month,

AJ has been training for years, he started off weight training and den got into boxing

If u think he is on roids den ur a nutter, i'm in the gym with real roid heads daily, AJ symmetry looks good, his muscles dont look full or disproportionate, nothing to me says he's on roids.

he has good genetics, if u were as tall as him u cud earn a silimar shape, it'd just mean u wud have to dedicate ur life to training, some weight training, cardio etc..

Just because some other fat lazy HW doesnt bother training as hard as AJ doesnt mean he is on roids.

The problem with a lot of HW's is they have horrible nutrition, they just eat and dont do enough cardio or weights.

AJ is a fitness fanatic as is Haye, these guys love exercising and keeping fit and it shows. You train hard and u eat right, the work will show

[110110110]

So, using your logic...

He cheated Olympic testing to win a gold medal.

And now he is cheating at Professional level to become a World Champion.

I am not saying that he is 100% clean or not, I just would like to see some kind of logical argument and evidence to underpin the comments saying he is using PED's.

Not just, WOW! he is really big and ripped so he MUST be on PEDs.

Until proven otherwise EVERY athlete is considered clean.

Again, using the type of ridiculous logic here it is like saying every black person MUST be a criminal - ergo, every boxer with large muscle mass who wins MUST be on PEDs?

It is just not right to generalise / speculate in that way IMO.

With JMM there is some circumstantial evidence which IS much more incriminating, the acne, hypertrophy, increased KO power and his medical team.

With AJ there is just the fact that he is a very big guy, with very low body fat.

That's it.

Its called ignorance

Most people don't have the balls to train as hard as these dudes.

The more you can push yourself, the stronger and more muscular you get.
That is the basics of muscular development.

Being a pro boxer, you get pushed beyond physically beyond anything a normal person can even fathom.

Boxers train to failure, and then the real work starts.

These kids that go to the local gym lift some weights, while the texting girls and joke around, then go home and eat crappy food and get drunk in the weekends, simply have no clue have insanely hard these pros train.

In boxing if you get lazy, and don't train right or eat right, you get your ass beat up and knocked out, and boxer knows this, and its what pushes them.

And its a year round thing, for years and years.

That gives them that ripped physic

[mikinoki]

It's a pretty serious accusation to make without a shred of proof...

it's the internet..what do you expect?facts?

[Zaryu]

Why should you assume he's on something illegal just because he looks like a body builder? I've met people that look like they only do weight training, yet they only run. Sometimes it's just a genetic disposition.

[Juof]

The dudes muscle bound anyway I think he's the second coming of Bruno

[czykent91]

High chance he's roid'ed up. Unnatural build. If you want to say that's genetics that he has a crazy high natural testosterones level, there's nothing we can say too.
Steroids are definitely for p.u.s.s.i.e.s and bodybuilders. That being said, the two are no different from one another.

[Divine Hammer]

is he connected with any steroid chemist?

[Chrismart]

Of course he is. Ban him now and take away his licence, no point waiting until he's actually caught cheating or anything.

Boxing should get rid of testing anyway, way more cheaper to get a few guys from BoxingScene to look at guys..feel their biceps and come to a conclusion.

Joshua ought to get a couple of hamburgers down him, get himslef that Chris Arreola physique..until then he's just a cheat. Just like Pacquiao was just because Mayweather's team said so.