So is there anyone out there who acually believes Anthony Joshua is a clean athlete?

[Resilient]

He's juiced off his peanut.

He's cycling hard now to retain the benefits for the next ten years (steroids have a residual effect)

[salitap4p#1]

If Joshua went 12 with that physique I'd agree.

But the guy would gas and gas hard. Because he's not training for 12 round fights. As soon as he has to, that physique will change a lot.

it's not PEDs, it's the muscle building regime he's on.

[Fr3$h]

big difference between Heath, Cutler, and Anthony Joshua though?

I was not directly comparing the physiques of Phil Heath/Jay Cutler to Anthony Joshua but rather responding to several general posts saying that some guys "just have it".

It's really not true. Even guys who were already serious athletes like Phil Heath (Division I basketball) had pretty average looking athlete physiques before roids and getting "the look" (cartoonish pouches of venous muscle mass in biologically unnecessary places).

It's also funny that many examples people used to compare to Anthony like Holyfield etc to prove he's clean are are known juicers part of federal pharmacy investigations... People are naive.

But I don't entirely blame the fighters. PEDs have pointless risks for your average guy trying to get laid, but in a sport where having an off night can result in permanent brain damage, PEDs are practically a form of health insurance. If I did it for a living I would probably hire one of the notorious "specialists" Ward, Marquez, etc have hired.

[King of Sting]

Not seeing how Joshua has looked in the past, it's hard to say because everyone is different genetically. Those pics provided were action shots, so the muscle had already been working. An average joe can use 'roids and still look nowhere near the Jay Cutler's, Schwarzenegger's of the world.

[Money_May]

What other pro boxer has been accused after just 6 pro fights?

Pretty damn early to start the accusations.

[MBE]

People are shook that a heavyweight isn't on a diet of borritos and coronas.

[SlySlickSmooth]

^ You look like an average guy who works out once in a while. I don't get your point. Nobody would accuse you of juicing based on that.

As for Ali, wut?


He looked nowhere near as ripped as these guys despite being much smaller

He said the 60s. This is Muhammad Ali then known as Cassius Clay in 1961.


I might have to make that picture my sig now, badass pic of Ali.

[Fr3$h]

How much did ali weigh there though ^, 190? I mean he looks the same size of Golovkin but taller, Apples and oranges. He has tiny normal human arms even.

When Ali actually weighed a true HW weight he was not ripped. He was a natural talent.

[SlySlickSmooth]

How much did ali weigh there though ^, 190? I mean he looks the same size of Golovkin but taller, Apples and oranges. He has tiny normal human arms even.

When Ali actually weighed a true HW weight he was not ripped. He was a natural talent.

True, he was probably 190-200(I would assume in the picture previously at least 195 since he was already a professional by 1961). Considering three years later against Liston he was 212-215.

if you can't tell who the second man is, this is the first Liston fight.

[Anderson Silva]

Its quite obvious he is not clean, but I dont care, its fun to watch.