Froch is not number 1 at 168lbs

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  • Mr. Philadel
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    #51
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Funny that if Bredis Prescott had gone back to the Colombia bum circuit after KO'ing Amir Kahn you'd have him higher ranked than the brit and Khan could do nothing about it.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #52
      Uh, who did Froch beat to gain this spot?? It sure wasn't Ward...............

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      • Skip Bayless
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        #53
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Funny that if Bredis Prescott had gone back to the Colombia bum circuit after KO'ing Amir Kahn you'd have him higher ranked than the brit and Khan could do nothing about it.
        except ward has beaten most of the guys froch has but done so more decisively and then dominated froch when they fought. beating the likes of groves, yusuf mack etc. isnt going to change that. if froch wants to prove he is no.1 go ahead and fight ward.

        and about ur comment on ward fighting bums since, is chad dawson a bum? is rodriguez a bum when compared to yusuf mack or groves? groves is a creation of frochs underestimation, had it prepared properly the first time no one would talk about groves any more.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #54
          Originally posted by HateBoxing
          except ward has beaten most of the guys froch has but done so more decisively and then dominated froch when they fought. beating the likes of groves, yusuf mack etc. isnt going to change that. if froch wants to prove he is no.1 go ahead and fight ward.

          and about ur comment on ward fighting bums since, is chad dawson a bum? is rodriguez a bum when compared to yusuf mack or groves? groves is a creation of frochs underestimation, had it prepared properly the first time no one would talk about groves any more.
          Your own reasoning was that Ward was no. 1 because he dominated Froch. Dont spin it.

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          • Divine Hammer
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            #55
            TS is delusional.

            froch has been fighting and beating all the top guys at 168 while someone like ward hasn't fought a credible 168 lb opponent in the longest time.

            to deny froch of his rightful place at #1 is disgusting to say the least.

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #56
              Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
              Yep. That's your logic in a nutshell.

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #57
                If froch and ward fought right now,, ward would be the heavy favorite and dominate froch again... Thats why i have ward at #1

                Activity doesnt make you the best, just makes you the most active... Ward still the kingpin at 168

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                • Skip Bayless
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  Your own reasoning was that Ward was no. 1 because he dominated Froch. Dont spin it.
                  how am i spinning it? im expanding it. what i offered in my first post was a quick explanation because i couldnt be bothered going in detail but since to want the nitty and gritty here u go.

                  to be the man u have to beat the man especially if he has already beaten u. same situation with ggg, i dont give a **** who he beats, if it aint martinez he aint no.1. at 160, its that simple

                  and about ur hypothetical situation regard khan and presscott, if presscott moves up to 147 and beat lets say collazo i would rank him higher than khan because they beat the same opponent in the weight division but he also beat khan.

                  bute/mack/groves are not better than opponents than what ward has already beaten so how the fu"k can anyone rate froch above ward. it makes 0 sense.

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                  • R_Walken
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                    #59
                    Ward is #1 Froch is #2 in the ring. Unless they fight again or Ward loses that's the way it is. As far as power and name recognition Froch is #1.

                    Not to take anything away from Froch he did his thing last night. But it's pretty clear Hearns and Froch don't want any piece of Ward, Because they know theres a good chance he loses.Froch is at the tail end of his career, he's a huge draw at home, why risk a potentially embarrassing defeat and shatter the illusion. when he can fight decent opponents Build his legacy, cash big cheques and have his fans convinced he's #1. if he fights Ward again Froch and his fans will have no exuses.


                    It's pretty clear No one from 160-175 want a piece of Ward. Hopkins, GGG, Froch, Chavez are avoiding him like the plaque that should tell people something.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #60
                      I'll defend ward when he actually dies something. He should be the best SMW in the world. Should being the operative word

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