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  • LacedUp
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    #11
    Don't get why some have referred to stamina issues being a reason for Groves' defeat.

    Groves simply had a wrong gameplan and was sloppy off the rope. You do that against Froch and you pay the price.

    Groves' fitness level seemed fine to me.

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    • bojangles1987
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      #12
      Originally posted by lewishamboy
      I'd say he's good enough ...just not disciplined enough
      He's not good enough, not for this Froch. In two fights he ended up wide open and getting caught both times. Once was questionable, but still saw Groves taking punishment after a while. The second time he was knocked out.

      He can't avoid getting sloppy when the fight breaks out, and when the fight breaks out Froch will catch him.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #13
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Don't get why some have referred to stamina issues being a reason for Groves' defeat.

        Groves simply had a wrong gameplan and was sloppy off the rope. You do that against Froch and you pay the price.

        Groves' fitness level seemed fine to me.
        I don't get that either. He looked fine. It was the whole point of his tentative start, to have stamina late, and he did.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #14
          I agree, the gameplan of moving, jabbing and trying to keep Froch off balance was terrific but Froch was prepared for that and fought in bursts, unloading on Groves any time Groves lay on the ropes and Groves simply tried trading with him.

          But that punch that Froch threw to end the night was so beautiful and the double feint before it was a work of art. Anyone taking that right hand would have gone down.

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          • Bird1
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            #15
            He could have won both fights just jabbing and occasionally firing off some power shots. But I think this is really difficult to stick by with 80,000 fans cheering. That's why Mayweather really is quite remarkable at sticking by his gameplan no matter what happens. Not all boxers can do that and not let the emotions take over.

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            • Joe2608
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              #16
              People are reading too much in to the specifics of the fight. For me, there is a more important factor than any game plan which dictated how the fight ended up the way it did.

              You could see Froch did not respect Groves the first time around, he didn't take it seriously and thought he was miles above Groves. After the first fight he learned a lesson and you could see all throughout the build up to the second fight last night that Froch prepared properly and had respect for Groves. When Froch puts his mind to something and has something to prove he is more focused and a different animal.

              It was always going to be tough for Groves because he hit him with everything he had in the first fight and couldn't finish Froch. Whereas Froch turned up in the worst shape of his career and still managed a result. That alone for me was enough to be confident that Froch would win clearly this time because there was no way Groves could pull off another performance as good as that and there was also no way Froch could fight as bad as he did in the first fight.

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              • FrankieBruno
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                #17
                man i am gutted for Groves

                his strategy was all wrong imo

                he fought cagey as did froch

                prince naz predicted this would happen, both men would come out not giving each other anything

                groves finally took the risk in round 7 and landed a heavy hook, then in 8 he was dominating, somewhat ****y and ****, froch lands the shot of his career

                the fight was very close, i had groves up by 2 rounds

                all credit to froch for pulling out that punch, best shot he has ever thrown

                groves needs to firstly get rid of that trainer of his and go back to booth, or someone who can teach him a bit of defence and a gameplan.

                this kid is 26 and has given froch hell twice, he's up there in the top 5 imo, just needs to sharpen up more.

                groves got too ****ky and paid the price, he had round 8 in the bag, then he stayed fighting off the ropes, jesus ******

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #18
                  If you watch the replay, the reason Groves was caught was cause his reflexes were slow. He threw his left (or attempted too) way too late. He had the right idea tho. Had he hooked with Froch while keeping right hand up, he wouldve caught Froch. Stimpy cause he has the faster hands.

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                  • Stuntman Mike
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Don't get why some have referred to stamina issues being a reason for Groves' defeat.

                    Groves simply had a wrong gameplan and was sloppy off the rope. You do that against Froch and you pay the price.

                    Groves' fitness level seemed fine to me.
                    Don't get why nobody has mentioned the bodywork of Froch... that was a huge part of the fight and the ending... the reason Groves got caught with the right was because of the zapped reflexes due to Frochs barrage of Body

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                    • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Col. Hans Landa
                      Don't get why nobody has mentioned the bodywork of Froch... that was a huge part of the fight and the ending... the reason Groves got caught with the right was because of the zapped reflexes due to Frochs barrage of Body
                      Exactly. His reflexes were greatly slowed. His hook didn't start coming out till Froch's punch was almost about to make impact.

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