Is Froch a current top 10, P4P?

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

Yeah or Alex Leapai.

What's your point? Don't be provocative and argue. Not putting Froch in the top 10 is as credible as putting him. In my opinion, he doesn't belong there, but to some he does, and I respect that.

Alex Leapai being mandatory shows that some federations are not doing their job properly.

[Weltschmerz]

Of course you can.

Otherwise, why is Lomachenckho not top?

The P4P rating is a Pro boxing ranking. Amateur doesn't come into it.

Lomachenko is top 10 if he beat a couple more top pro names. I bet you rate davey haye top 10 today, where does that leave your argument?

[Boxing Goat]

How is he not an elite fighter?

In the last 12 world title fights he's 10-2 against 11 top 10 guys. Name me 10 other fighters that can say the same.

No, actually, name me 5.

Huh? He's got a good resume but he's simply not anything amazing in the ring.

Elite is a guy like Jones or Calzaghe. Froch is a rung or two away from that in my opinion, once again.

[Boxing Goat]

What's your point? Don't be provocative and argue. Not putting Froch in the top 10 is as credible as putting him. In my opinion, he doesn't belong there, but to some he does, and I respect that.

Alex Leapai being mandatory shows that some federations are not doing their job properly.

Yusaf Mac was a beast too. I heard he actually pushes the earth away from HIM when he jump ropes and not the other way around.

[M Bison]

Lomachenko is top 10 if he beat a couple more top pro names. I bet you rate davey haye top 10 today, where does that leave your argument?

But but John Ruiz... Monte Barret urmmm eeerrrr.... Enzo Maccranelli proof Haye GOAT

[Scary]

Definitely top 10 p4p. Not necesarrily too low, but he's on it, he earned it the hard way. He beats everyone in SMW except Ward & perhaps Kessler can win too.

People who don't have him on their P4P, what can the man do then?! 3rd best resume in boxing right now.

[lewishamboy]

Froch may not be an elite boxer but he is an elite fighter.

Elements of his game such as his chin and his will / determination don't qualify with many as elite boxing skills, but they sure as **** make him a tough fighter to beat. He has beaten many boxers more 'skilled' than himself.

This is why he is often under-credited by proponents of the 'sweet science' who by nature don't value traits such as chin and heart as much as they sometimes should.

[Weltschmerz]

Froch may not be an elite boxer but he is an elite fighter.

Elements of his game such as his chin and his will / determination don't qualify with many as elite boxing skills, but they sure as **** make him a tough fighter to beat. He has beaten many boxers more 'skilled' than himself.

This is why he is often under-credited by proponents of the 'sweet science' who by nature don't value traits such as chin and heart as much as they sometimes should.

It's absurd that some are willing to argue that Froch isn't a top pound for pounder due to lack of skill, considering the resume of the Cobra, when they in the same breath will claim that Wladimir isn't ATG due to his 'poor' resume, while Weltz will be arguing that Wladimir's skill set alone puts him on the HW ATG list.

[mikinoki]

Hell no!!!In a popularity p4p list yes but in a realistic list no.There are manny real champions who deserve more to be in the top 10 by their skill!!!!

[LoadedWraps]

I think he cemented his greatness against Groves in the rematch.

He was in my top 10 p4p before this last fight. WAR FROCH!