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  • HEND
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    #61
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    What are these viewing figures from? HBO? Any links?

    Oh ok so an American fighter got bigger viewing figures at primetime on an American network by 0.1 million over a Brit and a Dane? As you Yanks would say "Well shucks, gosh golly I'll be damned!"

    Froch-Kessler II was a PPV fight in the UK and Denmark.
    Both from boxingscene.com, google it, I'm not lying. And my main say is not that "who is the bigger draw", but that Ward is not a big draw and he doesn't deserve that Hearn diss him because his style and because the fact that he beat Froch with ease and Hearn doesn't want that again for his cash cow. And no, I'm not a yank, actually I'm from Europe, but it could really piss me off when someone diss the best smw fighter because his style isn't sympathetic for his/her taste and he/she likes better Froch and try to make bul**** excuses why Froch is the greater fighter from the two.
    I saw a lot of p4p lists and none of them Froch was above Ward. Let's face the facts, Ward is the best fighter at 168 and he isn't unsellable as Hern trying to suggest...

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #62
      Originally posted by HEND
      Both from boxingscene.com, google it, I'm not lying. And my main say is not that "who is the bigger draw", but that Ward is not a big draw and he doesn't deserve that Hearn diss him because his style and because the fact that he beat Froch with ease and Hearn doesn't want that again for his cash cow. And no, I'm not a yank, actually I'm from Europe, but it could really piss me off when someone diss the best smw fighter because his style isn't sympathetic for his/her taste and he/she likes better Froch and try to make bul**** excuses why Froch is the greater fighter from the two.
      I saw a lot of p4p lists and none of them Froch was above Ward. Let's face the facts, Ward is the best fighter at 168 and he isn't unsellable as Hern trying to suggest...
      It's not really a diss. It's just fact. Carl Froch is selling 80,000 tickets and Ward is selling what? 2,000 in his hometown?

      Carl Froch is a PPV fighter. Ward is not.

      So what did Hearn say that was inaccurate? I don't see anywhere that he said Froch is a better fighter P4P....that's a different argument.

      The point is that Ward is going to have to swallow his pride sooner or later if he wants to make some real money cos right now he's being out-earned by George Groves which is sad....

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      • PunchyPotorff
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        #63
        So bring the fight to England and have another Wembley event. That should be enough to draw Ward out. After we see Froch this weekend we'll know more of where he is now, but with his history, I doubt he beats Ward. Still, it would be a great retirement fight for Froch... lotta moolah, and having sold out Wembley vs Groves, Froch would probably have no trouble doing the same with Ward, if it's promoted right. Haveta find the right angle to push it. Grudge match, whatever. It would actually be interesting to see how Ward does on a huge stage with an event like that.

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        • iniduoh
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          #64
          This is BS, Ward vs Froch or Groves is a money maker and Hearns knows it. This is just a cop-out by hearns and his way of saying "None of my fighters can beat Ward and I will not allow Ward to derail my schemes".

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            #65

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #66
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              The point is that Ward is going to have to swallow his pride sooner or later if he wants to make some real money cos right now he's being out-earned by George Groves which is sad....
              The problem is that they want Ward to go overseas but they don't want to pay him enough to make it worth his while.

              Is he supposed to fight them in their backyard AND take the B side of the purse too? Just because "they are popular doe?"

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              • Chunk..
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                #67
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                The problem is that they want Ward to go overseas but they don't want to pay him enough to make it worth his while.

                Is he supposed to fight them in their backyard AND take the B side of the purse too? Just because "they are popular doe?"
                'B side' money is still more than what he would earn fighting an nobody in some YMCA in the bay area.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by iniduoh
                  This is BS, Ward vs Froch or Groves is a money maker and Hearns knows it. This is just a cop-out by hearns and his way of saying "None of my fighters can beat Ward and I will not allow Ward to derail my schemes".
                  A money maker where? It would make the most money in the UK and it would have little to do with Andre Ward.

                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  The problem is that they want Ward to go overseas but they don't want to pay him enough to make it worth his while.

                  Is he supposed to fight them in their backyard AND take the B side of the purse too? Just because "they are popular doe?"
                  Yes. Yes he is supposed to. That's exactly what is it. Carl Froch is the A-side.

                  Why do you play dumb with the business side of boxing when it's black/Yank fighters?

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    It's not really a diss. It's just fact. Carl Froch is selling 80,000 tickets and Ward is selling what? 2,000 in his hometown?

                    I'll let you guys have it out but if you're really interested Ward does in the neighborhood of 10,000 fans at Oracle Arena when he fights there. You were off a little. To us that's crazy. Those are very high numbers for a US city. As I'm sure you know boxing is not nearly as popular stateside. Gatti vs. Ward I sold just more than 6,200 tickets. Froch enjoys significantly greater interest as a boxer in the UK than Ward does as a boxer in the US. It's an absurd comparison.

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                    • Check_hooks
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                      #70
                      Whats sad is this is probably the most popular Andre Ward thread on the internet

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