Roach would like the Canelo fight for Pac at a catchweight of 150

[Evol]

Why not a catchweight of 155, Fack Pacman he don't deserve any advantages. If he was smart he would've not renewed his contract w/TR!

i guess ur not so smart urself LOL!!

[megadeth]

i like how u choose not to answer my post regarding if floyd would have never asked for random testing would we have seen the fight already? LOL! and pac agree to random testing it was the cut off date that wasnt agreed upon. and what ego is floyd gonna have to get in his way when pac NEVER said anything bad about him or accused him of doing any wrong PRIOR to the negotaition LOL! u always seem to ignored that part from floyd. as for floyd he dished out all kinds of wrongful things towards pac, if i was manny i would tell floyd to kick rocks too at the time of the first negotiation.

now u're talking about pac's feelings being sensitive right? but u just said floyd decided not to work with arum after years or trying to negotiate for the fight and being mistreated, etc. so floyd finally comes out and said he wont do business with arum anymore. so is floyd's feelings that sensitive also? so why do u think people dislike floyd then since u seem to know all the answers LOL!

Scroll up, you must've missed a big post that answered that question.

[p4p-champ]

but but but Manny is a featherweight fighting at welterweight doe

[megadeth]

i like how u choose not to answer my post regarding if floyd would have never asked for random testing would we have seen the fight already? LOL! and pac agree to random testing it was the cut off date that wasnt agreed upon. and what ego is floyd gonna have to get in his way when pac NEVER said anything bad about him or accused him of doing any wrong PRIOR to the negotaition LOL! u always seem to ignored that part from floyd. as for floyd he dished out all kinds of wrongful things towards pac, if i was manny i would tell floyd to kick rocks too at the time of the first negotiation.

Then that means YOU are the only other person that would've done it, cuz every other person on earth who has sense would've taken the 75+ million dollars. By the way, since when do boxers act that way? I though warriors settled things in the ring? I don't get why u make such a big deal out of Floyd "saying bad things" to Pac. What are they...six?

now u're talking about pac's feelings being sensitive right? but u just said floyd decided not to work with arum after years or trying to negotiate for the fight and being mistreated, etc. so floyd finally comes out and said he wont do business with arum anymore. so is floyd's feelings that sensitive also? so why do u think people dislike floyd then since u seem to know all the answers LOL!

Really? You're comparing stealing millions from someone to someone saying a few bad things about you? LOL!..I'm not sure why they don't like him...but u seem to know it for sure since u keep telling me why they don't. Unfortunately they don't dislike Pac for many of the same things!

[el_mas_chingon]

i guess ur not so smart urself LOL!!

How's that??

[Evol]

To be 100% honest, I don't know. The reason I say that is, after looking at things, I think Pac & Floyd wanted the fight, but Arum didn't. If Floyd thought that Manny was using something(which I think he did), then he had every right to ask for random testing, just as Pac had every right to ask for the weight penalty as well as demand that Rios take drug testing.
I get what u are saying about "feeding his family" and I agree with that part...BUT, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why Pac couldn't have let the contract expire, AT LEAST explore if there was any interest in the fight from the Floyd camp, make the fight or not and then go back to Arum. Arum would be there with open arms seeing that Pac is his highest earner. Can we agree on that at least?



Never said that Pac said he was afraid of needles. You are right, Arum said that. But, how does taking blood ON THE DAY of the fight affect what you will do 14 days before the fight, because that is what Floyd ultimately offered? IT DOESN'T! So he was lying because that was not a reason to not take the 14 day cutoff. He was also lying about when he could take drug testing, hence the reason he had to move the testing from 30 days to 24 after the video surfaced. We also know he was lying because he was willing to take the exact same random drug testing that he demanded of Rios.




Of course it goes both ways, but do you EVER mention the excuses that Pac and Arum had? Do you or the others ever call Pac a coward or duck for not making the fight? No! It's ALL Mayweathers fault. Never once is the cut/stadium or countless other "roadblocks" and excuses by Pacs team brought up or even acknowledged. Bra, I have said MANY TIMES that it is BOTH of their faults that this fight has not been made. My apologies if that is your true opinion and that is how you have portrayed it....maybe I have u confused, but as far as I can I thought u were one of the "Floyds a coward" "Floyd don't want none" "Floyd is scared of Pac" "Floyd ducked Pac" crew. Like I said, if I am wrong, my apologies!

i like how now u said u believe pac and floyd wanted the fight but it was arum getting in the way when earlier u just said it was pac preventing the fight from happening then u list all the reasons only for me to correct u and said it was arum who said those things LOL!! and ur here talking about im not consistent? LOL!! like i said theres nothing wrong requesting for extra test, but when that person goes and diss and accuse and discredit the other person BEFORE even negotiating first then i would assume that person has every right to feel offended, wouldnt u?

and yes i'll call pac out on his excuses but what are they? u posted a few excuses and i already told u that came from arum. so i cant call pac out on something i dont know about. please do share what pac's many excuses were? and no im not talking about bob or roach's excuses.
and about the contract part, do u think bob will just let pac get up and "explore" his interest first elsewhere and then come back if theres nothing out there for him? LOL! if u've been at ur work place for over 10+ years with a good salary are u just gonna risk it by leaving to see whats out there when u have a faimly to feed and bills to pay? i think not.

and for ur last post about not calling pac a coward, etc., which brings me back to the very beginning, had floyd not asked for random testing we would have seen the fight already correct? so when people choose who to blame, who do u think they'll pick? this is why u dont see much comments about pac being a coward, etc.

[Evol]

How's that??

because u said f@ck manny, f@ck giving him the advantages. then u said if manny was smart he wouldnt have sign the extension with TR.

maybe manny IS SMART thats why he's sticking with bob and TR because he gets the advantages he wants being with bob! see what i did there LOL!!

[DeadLikeMe]

So to summarize these 16 pages...fighting a guy at 152 makes you a fraud coward, but fighting the same guy at 150 makes you a brave undaunting warrior. Thanks NSB, never change.

[el_mas_chingon]

because u said f@ck manny, f@ck giving him the advantages. then u said if manny was smart he wouldnt have sign the extension with TR.

maybe manny IS SMART thats why he's sticking with bob and TR because he gets the advantages he wants being with bob! see what i did there LOL!!

No he's a dumb@ss because Bob is making money off of him, If he would learn from previous stablemates Cotto, Khan all have their own promotions. Even Canelo who's only 23 has had his own promotions, De la Hoya and Mayweather are some of the best examples breaking away from TR! See what I did there!

[IMDAZED]

So to summarize these 16 pages...fighting a guy at 152 makes you a fraud coward, but fighting the same guy at 150 makes you a brave undaunting warrior. Thanks NSB, never change.