Should Froch be no. 1 if he beats Groves?

[LacedUp]

"All time rankings"

Do you even know what you're talking about?

The only question that needs to be answered is.....Is Carl Froch the best super middleweight in the world?

That's not the point of this thread.

And rankings isn't based on who the 'best' is, it's based on who beat who. Being the best is subjective.

I don't think many people will disagree that Ward is the best SMW out there on top form, but since he fights about as often as Haye, he should be stripped of his ranking.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's not the point of this thread.

And rankings isn't based on who the 'best' is, it's based on who beat who. Being the best is subjective.

I don't think many people will disagree that Ward is the best SMW out there on top form, but since he fights about as often as Haye, he should be stripped of his ranking.

[Resilient]

Groves would smash garbage Ward.

[LacedUp]

You are talking about P4P rankings,

You obtain a ranking by beating a ranked fighter - it's that simple.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You are talking about P4P rankings,

You obtain a ranking by beating a ranked fighter - it's that simple.

No I'm not.

What "rankings" are you referring to?

Andre Ward is the best SMW in the world - it's that simple.

Under what ******ed logic can you admit that Ward is the best SMW in the world but then say he's ranked below Froch....lol what the hell does that even mean?

[The Big Dunn]

Yes.

Yeah.

Froch, who we know a lot about due to the opposition faced

or

Ward, who's current form has more questionmarks than the riddlers suit. I mean we know that he was the best three years ago when he fought the best. Since then we know he can beat a raisin and a clubfighter and that he has had several major injuries.

Rather than count years count # of fights. SInce Ward and Froch fought Froch has defeated:
George Groves,,Mikkel Kessler,Yusaf Mack,Lucian Bute

Ward has defeated:Rodriguez,Chad Dawson.

JUst not enough to surpass ward given he handily and thouroughly beat Froch.

[BattlingNelson]

The fact that you have to dance around the subject and blow a bunch of hot air tells me everything.

Carl Froch isn't the best at 168 and nothing will change that until he beats Andre Ward. Even Froch himself knows that and wouldn't want people to think otherwise.

Stop trying to pussify boxing.

So you dont think Ward has to prove his ranking then? You just carry on with the perception that he is the best. The way you see it, he can just fight a bum a year and look good doing that, in order to maintain his ranking.

I guess you are entitled to your opinion which is what this thread is about. I just dont agree.

[slimshandy69]

No I'm not.

What "rankings" are you referring to?

Andre Ward is the best SMW in the world - it's that simple.

Under what ******ed logic can you admit that Ward is the best SMW in the world but then say he's ranked below Froch....lol what the hell does that even mean?

mark Selby is ranked higher than Ronnie olsullivan pre the finals.

Adam scott is ranked above tiger woods.

Why, inactivity from those players,

If froch beats groves this Saturday, he would have fought 5 times compared to wards 2.

Ward fighters were both weight drained fighters.

Bute, Kessler, mack, groves, groves is definitely above andre wards last two wins.

He should be number 1.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So you dont think Ward has to prove his ranking then? You just carry on with the perception that he is the best. The way you see it, he can just fight a bum a year and look good doing that, in order to maintain his ranking.

I guess you are entitled to your opinion which is what this thread is about. I just dont agree.

Perception? It's reality. He beat almost everyone at Super Middleweight and all in a convincing manner.

[shade darkar]

no, because ward is clearly the best at 168 and has already beaten froch. how can froch be above a guy he got well beat by?

ward needs to move up or down in weight because there isnt much at 168 for him.