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  • #61
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    This is not about who is the lineal or ring Magazine champion. Its about straight ranking.
    And with a convincing W over Froch, anyone without an agenda straight ranks Ward over Froch

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
      So Ward should just keep his ranking as long as he steps in the ring once a year against the Rodriguez's, the Pudwill's and the Kashtonov's of the world, while his main rival beats the best fighters in the division?

      Is that how you think it should work?

      Mikkel Kessler kept himself atop the 168 rankings for 2 years after Calzaghe by fighting Dmitri Sartison, Danilo Haussler and Gusmyr Pedermo.

      Chad Dawson and Edwin Rodriguez alone **** on the typical Kessler comp.

      Jesus..... someone call Allan Green. Ward needs a resume bump by matching Kessler's biggest win of the past 4 years. LMAO

      Or was Glass Rib Magee rated in the Top-3 as well?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        I used the ring magazine to show who was ranked where at the time. We all know the ring magazine has strict rules for their 'lineal' championship, however that shouldn't disregard what should be.

        Which is also the question of this thread.

        Deerp
        So if Ring Magazine are wrong, then why the *** would you use their rankings? Derp.

        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Thank you. You say that Ward will always be above Froch no matter the opposition of both guys. Froch can never top Ward. That is if both win out obviously.

        Its an opinion obviously. I just disagree. I find it rather lame.
        Froch can top Ward by actually....you know....beating him!

        It's not hard to understand here. You guys are basically celebrating 3rd place play-offs as if they're for the championship.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
          Mikkel Kessler kept himself atop the 168 rankings for 2 years after Calzaghe by fighting Dmitri Sartison, Danilo Haussler and Gusmyr Pedermo.

          Chad Dawson and Edwin Rodriguez alone **** on the typical Kessler comp.

          Jesus..... someone call Allan Green. Ward needs a resume bump by matching Kessler's biggest win of the past 4 years. LMAO

          Or was Glass Rib Magee rated in the Top-3 as well?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            So if Ring Magazine are wrong, then why the *** would you use their rankings? Derp.

            Froch can top Ward by actually....you know....beating him!

            It's not hard to understand here. You guys are basically celebrating 3rd place play-offs as if they're for the championship.
            I used their rankings as a reference. Would I reference what I thought personally at the time?

            That doesn't make any sense.

            Well if the two teams in the final decided not to play at all, then I guess it would be for the championship, no?

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            • #66
              Ward has fought twice since beating Froch in 2011. That is pathetic. I couldn't care less about his issues, that is his problem.

              You can't just sit on the sidelines sniping about other fighters and claiming to be number 1 while not fighting yourself. At some point you have to prove it. Froch is the man defending his world titles. Froch is the man who is taking on the challengers in the division.

              Froch is currently the number 1 Super Middleweight in the world. It's as simple as that. Ward needs to get his finger out and fight.

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              • #67
                No way. Ward fought in November 2013 vs the best available contender that he hasn't already beaten.

                Since then, The only fighters team to make an offer to wards team is Kessler.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                  And with a convincing W over Froch, anyone without an agenda straight ranks Ward over Froch
                  So if Froch beats Groves convincingly, you'd rank him above Ward?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jas View Post
                    No way. Ward fought in November 2013 vs the best available contender that he hasn't already beaten.

                    Since then, The only fighters team to make an offer to wards team is Kessler.
                    Rodriguez was certainly not the best available contender.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      Rodriguez was certainly not the best available contender.
                      More like the worst.

                      Couldn't even make weight.

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