Comments Thread For: Froch: I'm Not Sure Groves Will Ever Be World Champion!

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  • yoz
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pigeons
    Ward WTD11 Kessler
    Ward WUD12 Bika (Current WBC champ)
    Ward WUD12 Abraham (Current WBO champ)
    Ward WUD12 Froch (Current IBF champ and WBA unified champ)
    Ward WUD12 Dawson

    Ward has resoundingly beaten every current top SMW. Case closed.
    Should have been DQd vs. Kessler.

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    • yoz
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      #12
      Originally posted by VG_Addict
      Everyone knows Ward is the true SMW champion. He's already cleaned out the division.
      Ducked Bute
      Didn't fight Dirrell
      Should have been DQd vs. Kessler

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      • Adamjr91
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        #13
        I don't like watching Ward fight but he cleaned out the SMW divison 2-3 years ago pretty comfortably and since then, the champions of the SMW division have only got weaker.

        The only reason why Ward doesn't fight big names is because he's been promoted all wrong which means he doesn't generate good money to pay big names to take that risk.

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        • CraigM
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          #14
          It's crap like this why I can't stand Froch anymore... such an ignorant twat sometimes

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          • yoz
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            #15
            Originally posted by CraigM
            It's crap like this why I can't stand Froch anymore... such an ignorant twat sometimes
            And Groves is virtuous, right?

            "Are you going to cry, Carl?"
            "I'll batter Froch into retirement"
            "Froch is a broken man"

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            • kafkod
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              #16
              Originally posted by Adamjr91
              I don't like watching Ward fight but he cleaned out the SMW divison 2-3 years ago pretty comfortably and since then, the champions of the SMW division have only got weaker.

              The only reason why Ward doesn't fight big names is because he's been promoted all wrong which means he doesn't generate good money to pay big names to take that risk.
              Right. So he cleaned out the division back in 2011. And it's not his fault he doesn't fight the big names now, it's just that nobody wants to watch him, yeah?
              So now, whatever Froch or anybody else does, they're just belt holders and Ward is the champion ... and he stays champion forever ... without fighting anybody ... is that how it works?

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              • just the facts
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                #17
                Originally posted by yoz
                Ducked Bute
                Didn't fight Dirrell
                Should have been DQd vs. Kessler
                you can post all the ifs and buts you want, but if you point blank asked Carl Froch who the best SMW in the world today is, he'd tell you it's Ward.

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                • Greed.
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                  #18
                  If Ward is #2 p4p, then surely he is the best SMW on the planet. He easily beat the #2 in Froch, so there shouldn't be any argument.
                  As for Groves, i wonder about his weight. I think he struggles to make 168. It's well documented that draining yourself to make weight can affect stamina and punch resistance, but can he win a title at light-heavy?

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                  • invanex
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                    #19
                    LOL until he says the word "legacy" LOL!!!!! legacy who?

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                    • jas
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                      #20
                      Ward fought the best available guy he hadn't already beat late last year and that's considered being inactive enough to not be THE champion lmao.

                      He is lineal by definition and he is clearly the champion in the division.

                      He can still fight despite his lawsuits against goosen not paying his co-promoter. Only Kesslers team has made an offer to face ward.......

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