What did Bradley do to get the Pacquiao showdown ?

[TintaBoricua]

At 140lbs he shamelessly ducked Amir Khan. Then the fact he had a previous win at WW over Carlos Abregu apparently warranted a Pacquiao showdown. Khan just beat Luis Collazo who even at this stage is a better win than a no name contender in Abregu.

Collazo > Abregu.....even today.

Don't bring up "oh he went 24 rounds doe, he schooled Marquez doe". That was after getting the 1st fight. Im specifically asking what did he do the 1st time to get Pacquiao?

So?

You bring this up as if to downplay Tim yet you have Joan Guzman in your signature? Talk about untapped potential.

It wasn't the Abregu fight that got Tim a shot at Pac, it was his accomplishments.

Unified by taking Witter on when he was still a big threat (in Witter's hometown!), beat Edner Cherry easily, received a "BAD-ASS" seal of approval when he got up in the first round from a monster left hook from Kendall Holt, went through Lamot Peterson/Luis Abregu/Devon Alexander back to back when they were all undefeated (two of which were highly heralded contenders), and unified again when he beat Alexander...all of them EASILY.

There is a reason why Tim Bradley is the only fighter besides Cotto I always root for. The man doesn't have a rap sheet, is always in phenomenal shape, can't punch but goes toe to toe anyway, has shown great heart in every fight...what more could you truly ask for?

I truly did feel sorry when the public scorned him and only knew him as "the guy that robbed Pacquiao"...without them knowing his long list of accomplishments. It goes to show you how ignorant the casual "boxing fan" is.

[TintaBoricua]

And someone please correct me of I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only reason Tim took on Abregu was because Marcos Maidana pulled out of his fight with Bradley (yes, the fight had been announced and was official). I distinctly remember it being on HBO's fight schedule. Tim Bradley is not a punk. That guy will take on anybody.

And before anybody barges in here with Khan...yes, that's the only critique you can pin on Bradley. On the other hand, he made more money by going to Top Rank, got more exposure, beat Márquez, and his war with Provodnikov made him more fans...

You will never be liked 100% by everyone. You make choices and you live with them. Had I been offered a fight with Pacquiao by signing with Top Rank and ditching my old promoter, I would've done the EXACT SAME THING.

[Rome-By-Ko]

You bring this up as if to downplay Tim yet you have Joan Guzman in your signature? Talk about untapped potential.

It wasn't the Abregu fight that got Tim a shot at Pac, it was his accomplishments.

Unified by taking Witter on when he was still a big threat (in Witter's hometown!), beat Edner Cherry easily, received a "BAD-ASS" seal of approval when he got up in the first round from a monster left hook from Kendall Holt, went through Lamot Peterson/Luis Abregu/Devon Alexander back to back when they were all undefeated (two of which were highly heralded contenders), and unified again when he beat Alexander...all of them EASILY.

There is a reason why Tim Bradley is the only fighter besides Cotto I always root for. The man doesn't have a rap sheet, is always in phenomenal shape, can't punch but goes toe to toe anyway, has shown great heart in every fight...what more could you truly ask for?

I truly did feel sorry when the public scorned him and only knew him as "the guy that robbed Pacquiao"...without them knowing his long list of accomplishments. It goes to show you how ignorant the casual "boxing fan" is.

And someone please correct me of I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only reason Tim took on Abregu was because Marcos Maidana pulled out of his fight with Bradley (yes, the fight had been announced and was official). I distinctly remember it being on HBO's fight schedule. Tim Bradley is not a punk. That guy will take on anybody.

And before anybody barges in here with Khan...yes, that's the only critique you can pin on Bradley. On the other hand, he made more money by going to Top Rank, got more exposure, beat Márquez, and his war with Provodnikov made him more fans...

You will never be liked 100% by everyone. You make choices and you live with them. Had I been offered a fight with Pacquiao by signing with Top Rank and ditching my old promoter, I would've done the EXACT SAME THING.

Great post,top notch..

[-Makunouchi-]

Haters gonna hate but bradley still is one of the best p4p, floyd would have his mouth shut, styles makes fights and i know that bradley has it.

[Box-Office]

You bring this up as if to downplay Tim yet you have Joan Guzman in your signature? Talk about untapped potential

Guzman never got a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight, but talk about a strawman.

It wasn't the Abregu fight that got Tim a shot at Pac, it was his accomplishments.

Unified by taking Witter on when he was still a big threat (in Witter's hometown!), beat Edner Cherry easily, received a "BAD-ASS" seal of approval when he got up in the first round from a monster left hook from Kendall Holt, went through Lamot Peterson/Luis Abregu/Devon Alexander back to back when they were all undefeated (two of which were highly heralded contenders), and unified again when he beat Alexander...all of them EASILY.

Again another person using Tim's 140 run as an argument. Talk about WW where Manny was the champ and consistently fighting at. When I bring up Bradley being rewarded for ducking Khan people say "oh he at least had one win at WW". That's when I bring up Abregu and it goes back to "all his accomplishments at 140".

There is a reason why Tim Bradley is the only fighter besides Cotto I always root for. The man doesn't have a rap sheet, is always in phenomenal shape, can't punch but goes toe to toe anyway, has shown great heart in every fight...what more could you truly ask for?

I agree he is an elite level fighter, but the thread isn't exactly about Tim's spirit as a fighter. The duck part wasn't the emphasis, but how Abregu gets you Pac, but funny how Khan needs to do more.

I truly did feel sorry when the public scorned him and only knew him as "the guy that robbed Pacquiao"...without them knowing his long list of accomplishments. It goes to show you how ignorant the casual "boxing fan" is.

They may be ignorant, but respectfully asking how does this part match the thread topic?

And someone please correct me of I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only reason Tim took on Abregu was because Marcos Maidana pulled out of his fight with Bradley (yes, the fight had been announced and was official). I distinctly remember it being on HBO's fight schedule. Tim Bradley is not a punk. That guy will take on anybody.

It didn't happen and no Bradley is not the punk, but it was a duck nonetheless like Khan with Alexander.

And before anybody barges in here with Khan...yes, that's the only critique you can pin on Bradley. On the other hand, he made more money by going to Top Rank, got more exposure, beat Márquez, and his war with Provodnikov made him more fans...

Provo and Marquez happened after and I am asking what did Bradley do to deserve Pacquiao fight the first time at WW?

Also with the $ logic Stevenson not fighting Kovalev was a good thing, which it wasn't.

You will never be liked 100% by everyone. You make choices and you live with them. Had I been offered a fight with Pacquiao by signing with Top Rank and ditching my old promoter, I would've done the EXACT SAME THING.

Again it isn't about Bradley being a punk, but the fact if Khan gets Pacquiao it makes perfect sense as Bradley got it with Abregu. Khan has achieved quite a bit himself at 140 so how come he doesn't get Floyd based on that? That is because he had no wins at WW before and Collazo is a step in that direction, but if we are talking about Pacquiao-Khan then it does given how Bradley got his shot.

[ChampBox@PR]

just be thankful Bradley chose a bigger payday instead of beating Khan's ass

Nope he chose to fight a shot to shit Joel Casamayor at WW

He could had fought Khan, and then move to Top Rank. He'll Khan even, gave up somebody to try and get him in the ring, and he ran like a coward.

[aaron.king]

Nobody with any clue about what they're saying thinks that the Abregu win got Bradley the Pacquiao fight. Some people might say that, but they're just wrong.

[Box-Office]

Nope he chose to fight a shot to shit Joel Casamayor at WW

He could had fought Khan, and then move to Top Rank. He'll Khan even, gave up somebody to try and get him in the ring, and he ran like a coward.

Good post.

It's just nonsense from some of these so called fans who let their moronic bias get in the way of sounding normal.

[TintaBoricua]

Guzman never got a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight, but talk about a strawman.



Again another person using Tim's 140 run as an argument. Talk about WW where Manny was the champ and consistently fighting at. When I bring up Bradley being rewarded for ducking Khan people say "oh he at least had one win at WW". That's when I bring up Abregu and it goes back to "all his accomplishments at 140".



I agree he is an elite level fighter, but the thread isn't exactly about Tim's spirit as a fighter. The duck part wasn't the emphasis, but how Abregu gets you Pac, but funny how Khan needs to do more.



They may be ignorant, but respectfully asking how does this part match the thread topic?



It didn't happen and no Bradley is not the punk, but it was a duck nonetheless like Khan with Alexander.



Provo and Marquez happened after and I am asking what did Bradley do to deserve Pacquiao fight the first time at WW?

Also with the $ logic Stevenson not fighting Kovalev was a good thing, which it wasn't.



Again it isn't about Bradley being a punk, but the fact if Khan gets Pacquiao it makes perfect sense as Bradley got it with Abregu. Khan has achieved quite a bit himself at 140 so how come he doesn't get Floyd based on that? That is because he had no wins at WW before and Collazo is a step in that direction, but if we are talking about Pacquiao-Khan then it does given how Bradley got his shot.

The Luis Carlos Abregu fight did not get him the Pacquiao fight. Had it been closer to the Pacquiao fight, then you could say that. Bradley fought Abregu way before there were talks of him switching to Top Rank (and Bob Arum saying that he'd give him a shot at Pacquiao for signing). I am almost positive when the Pac-Bradley fight was signed, people weren't thinking, "Gee, I think Tim deserves that fight because he beat Luis Carlos Abregu." Abregu didn't get Tim the Pacquiao fight, it's a bunch of other factors (whether you include Abregu or not):

A-) Undefeated
B-) Two time unified champion
C-) Beat an undefeated Lamont Peterson
D-) Beat undefeated champion Devon Alexander
E-) Signed with Top Rank
F-) All of the above

I get what you're saying, most of his wins were at 140, but he got the shot anyway.

What's exactly your angle on Khan? Are you trying to use Tim as a parallel to point out that Khan is worthy of a fight with Pacquiao (despite having only one win over a WW?) Cause if you are, then yeah...I don't have a problem with that. He needs to jump on it now, though before he's on the bad end of an upset.

[Rome-By-Ko]

The Luis Carlos Abregu fight did not get him the Pacquiao fight. Had it been closer to the Pacquiao fight, then you could say that. Bradley fought Abregu way before there were talks of him switching to Top Rank (and Bob Arum saying that he'd give him a shot at Pacquiao for signing). I am almost positive when the Pac-Bradley fight was signed, people weren't thinking, "Gee, I think Tim deserves that fight because he beat Luis Carlos Abregu." Abregu didn't get Tim the Pacquiao fight, it's a bunch of other factors (whether you include Abregu or not):

A-) Undefeated
B-) Two time unified champion
C-) Beat an undefeated Lamont Peterson
D-) Beat undefeated champion Devon Alexander
E-) Signed with Top Rank
F-) All of the above

I get what you're saying, most of his wins were at 140, but he got the shot anyway.

What's exactly your angle on Khan? Are you trying to use Tim as a parallel to point out that Khan is worthy of a fight with Pacquiao (despite having only one win over a WW?) Cause if you are, then yeah...I don't have a problem with that. He needs to jump on it now, though before he's on the bad end of an upset.

I think his point is to try and say Bradley landed a fight without doing much at WW,so why can't Khan..Yet he never looks at Khans resume,once you factor that in it's very easy to see why he's not got a shot at any of the big dogz of the sport..

Yet if he can land a Mayweather or Pac fight right now,he should go for it..Does he deserve it??Based off of resume at this point I'd say no,but if he can land anyone of these fights..He should totally go for it,I said when he was going to fight Alexander and there was talk's for the Mayweather fight he should take it..He'd be a fool not to..Yet even more so at that point he did not deserve the shot..Yet hey neither did Ortiz tbh..