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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by Beercules
    Ok what prime elite opponents has Floyd fought. Juan? Guerrero? Canelo?
    I'd say post Corrales, Castillo x2, Hatton and Canelo.

    What's this got to do with those fights and whether they are cherry picks or not?

    Or do you just randomly move to another tangent regularly?

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      #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      I'd say post Corrales, Castillo x2, Hatton and Canelo.

      What's this got to do with those fights and whether they are cherry picks or not?

      Or do you just randomly move to another tangent regularly?
      Who has Canelo beaten to be considered elite already?

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        #53
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I'd say post Corrales, Castillo x2, Hatton and Canelo.

        What's this got to do with those fights and whether they are cherry picks or not?

        Or do you just randomly move to another tangent regularly?


        you dont consider JMM, Guerrero, Maidana cherrypicks?

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          #54
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          I'd say post Corrales, Castillo x2, Hatton and Canelo.

          What's this got to do with those fights and whether they are cherry picks or not?

          Or do you just randomly move to another tangent regularly?
          Ok I've said outside or Corrales.

          Castillo 1 Floyd lost. Respect to Floyd he rematched him and beat him the 2nd match.

          Hatton, like I said was already beaten by Collazo at 147 even though Luis didn't get the nod.

          Canelo, a CW and has Canelo even entered his prime? Still don't understand to this day why Floyd needed a CW to fight Canelo.

          He could've beat him at 154 IMO. But hey, that's Floyd for you.

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            #55
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            you dont consider JMM, Guerrero, Maidana cherrypicks?
            Marquez certainly.

            Guererro and Maidana no. They were both Top Welterweights.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Beercules
              Ok I've said outside or Corrales.
              You read the worst "Post" before the world "Corrales" or no?

              Originally posted by Beercules
              Castillo 1 Floyd lost. Respect to Floyd he rematched him and beat him the 2nd match.
              Well he didn't lose and even if he did what has that got to do with anything? You're asking who he's fought.

              Originally posted by Beercules
              Hatton, like I said was already beaten by Collazo at 147 even though Luis didn't get the nod.
              Ok and that means he's not elite now? One loss to a good fighter? That fight was close aswell.

              Originally posted by Beercules
              Canelo, a CW and has Canelo even entered his prime? Still don't understand to this day why Floyd needed a CW to fight Canelo.
              So? What's with all of these ridiculous statments?

              Pacquaio-Cotto was at a CW do you consider that an elite win? What about Whitaker over Chavez?

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                #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Marquez certainly.

                Guererro and Maidana no. They were both Top Welterweights.


                agree to disagree on the subject then...beating Aydin and Berto didn't make Guerrero a top welter IMO and i thought Maidana was a blatant cherrypick as evidenced by that rigged poll...which, to be fair, i preferred over a Khan fight


                all top fighters cherrypick when they get to that shot-caller level...PAC, Cotto, Canelo, Chavez Jr, Floyd...they all cherrypick

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                  agree to disagree on the subject then...beating Aydin and Berto didn't make Guerrero a top welter IMO and i thought Maidana was a blatant cherrypick as evidenced by that rigged poll...which, to be fair, i preferred over a Khan fight


                  all top fighters cherrypick when they get to that shot-caller level...PAC, Cotto, Canelo, Chavez Jr, Floyd...they all cherrypick
                  Perhaps in hindsight but Aydin was Top 10 and Berto was favoured reasonably heavily to beat him. Let's not forget the division was quite thin then aswell.

                  Can't see how Maidana was a cherry pick but I said that from the day it was signed and it turned out it was a tough fight.

                  I'm not dis*****g Floyd has cherry picked in his career, as has every top fighter. But it's pretty overstated, putting it mildly.

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                    #59
                    Nah. He was blacklisted a lot early in his career, I think people are forgetting this. If Mayweathers a cherry[picker, so is everyone else.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      You read the worst "Post" before the world "Corrales" or no?



                      Well he didn't lose and even if he did what has that got to do with anything? You're asking who he's fought.



                      Ok and that means he's not elite now? One loss to a good fighter? That fight was close aswell.



                      So? What's with all of these ridiculous statments?

                      Pacquaio-Cotto was at a CW do you consider that an elite win? What about Whitaker over Chavez?
                      Your first point; I'm not even sure what you're trying to convey because it's poorly written.

                      Floyd lost the first fight against JLC. Hurt shoulder, wrongs socks; whatever. Floyd lost. I gave Floyd credit for the rematch, so stop.

                      Hatton looked vulnerable at 147. Floyd swoops in the take the '0' (possibly Floyd's last great win)

                      Cotto was 145 in his fight prior to Manny, this was also Mannys second venture to WW after Oscar dragged him up to WW. Not sure what this has to do with Floyd.

                      Chavez Whitaker? I thought we were talking about Floyd? I thought Pea won that fight personally.

                      If we have to dig this far into Floyd's resume; TBE, something's wrong.

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