Man when will GGG face a live body? His resume sucks for a "number one contender"

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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #81
    just came in here to make sure the TS was red

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    • sugarsmosley
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      #82
      Originally posted by Croyd
      I heard Canelo is having trouble staying at 154. This would be a fight I would pay for. There is a video floating around the net of GGG sparring with Canelo, it was only sparring but Canelo gave the better of it.
      Canelo-GGG would be an epic fight, but i wanna see canelo at 160 first

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      • bojangles1987
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        #83
        Originally posted by VG_Addict
        Also, Golovkin's team has said that he'd fight anyone from 154 to 168. Yet he chooses to stay at 160 and fight the Adamas and Ishidas of the world.
        He's trying to fight the best middleweights and they won't fight him. Why is Golovkin blamed for this? It really pisses me off. Golovkin is doing the right thing. He's defending his belt and trying to unify a division. Yet he's blamed for all the fighters who walk away from him.

        It's incredibly twisted logic to blame the guy being ducked for a duck.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #84
          Guillermo Rigondeaux needs to fight a live body. All he does is sit around, when is he going to fight a live body? I don't care that he wants the fights and is being ducked, that's his fault.

          Sounds ******, doesn't it?

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            #85
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack
            There's no middleweight outside of Sergio that Golovkin can beat to really impress people. Golovkin is the only middleweight apart from Sergio that anyone else can beat to make themselves a big name.

            Wins over Geale, Sturm, Quillin, Macklin, Murray, N'Dam etc will earn you a certain amount of respect, but none of those are big enough names to really excite people.
            Middleweight is pretty soft, even a win over Sergio at this point people would question quite a bit. That does suck for Golovkin no doubt because he has no control over that.


            To make a name he pretty much has to go to 168, Froch and even more so Ward are worth a gaggle of those middleweights..

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            • VG_Addict
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              #86
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              He's trying to fight the best middleweights and they won't fight him. Why is Golovkin blamed for this? It really pisses me off. Golovkin is doing the right thing. He's defending his belt and trying to unify a division. Yet he's blamed for all the fighters who walk away from him.

              It's incredibly twisted logic to blame the guy being ducked for a duck.
              He said he would fight anyone from 154 to 168. He hasn't gone to 154 or 168, where he might actually be able to get some good fights. Therefore, I doubt he's serious about moving to another weight class.

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                #87
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Guillermo Rigondeaux needs to fight a live body. All he does is sit around, when is he going to fight a live body? I don't care that he wants the fights and is being ducked, that's his fault.

                Sounds ******, doesn't it?
                Rigondeaux fought the man in his weight class, who was also a top 10 P4P fighter. And he dominated him. So, that analogy doesn't work.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  He said he would fight anyone from 154 to 168. He hasn't gone to 154 or 168, where he might actually be able to get some good fights. Therefore, I doubt he's serious about moving to another weight class.
                  Yet his team was negotiating for a Chavez fight at 168 that fell apart because of Chavez and Top Rank, and has discussed a fight with Kessler. So again, how is Golovkin not trying to make better fights? You're blaming him for things that are not his fault.

                  Besides, why is it that fans are trying harder to push Golovkin to another weight rather than pushing the fighters at middleweight to fight him? Why are fans okay with an entire division freezing Golovkin out? ****ing ridiculous.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by VG_Addict
                    Rigondeaux fought the man in his weight class, who was also a top 10 P4P fighter. And he dominated him. So, that analogy doesn't work.
                    Do you remember before that? When all the Rigondeaux fans were calling an entire division scared and he hadn't fought anyone? Were as many people saying that was Rigondeaux's fault as are saying it's Golovkins fault? The Rigondeaux fans are among the loudest calling Golovkin a fraud that cherry picks easy fights. They should sympathize more with Golovkin's plight than anyone.

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                    • VG_Addict
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      Yet his team was negotiating for a Chavez fight at 168 that fell apart because of Chavez and Top Rank, and has discussed a fight with Kessler. So again, how is Golovkin not trying to make better fights? You're blaming him for things that are not his fault.

                      Besides, why is it that fans are trying harder to push Golovkin to another weight rather than pushing the fighters at middleweight to fight him? Why are fans okay with an entire division freezing Golovkin out? ****ing ridiculous.
                      If you think fans influence what fights get made, you're naive.

                      Fans wanting Mayweather-Pacquiao didn't help that fight get made.

                      Fans wanting Kovalev-Stevenson didn't help that fight get made.

                      Fans wanting Chavez-Golovkin didn't help that fight get made.

                      Sure these fights were in talks of happening, but all of them fell through, whether because of different promotions or one or both fighters wanting more money.

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