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  • #51
    Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
    I like Lara but I don't know if I agree with him here. He needs to look at his film tape and understand why he struggles with pressure fighters. Canelo stopped Angulo's forward momentum immediately and threw crushing shots to the body and head. He also threw punches in bunches and got off first and also threw a good jab that night.

    Landy, on the other hand, continuously retreated from Angulo. He rarely threw body punches or sat down on his punches (except the straight left). Lara's fighting style gave Angulo confidence that his will could be imposed and earn him a victory. Canelo snatched Angulo's confidence in round 1.

    It is true that Angulo did take a lot of punishment in his fight with Lara but the style clash was a major factor in the difference between Angulo's performances.
    True, but you also have to take into account that maybe Lara isn't/wasn't as physically strong as Canelo. Canelo's ability to physically impose himself on Angulo, was clearly evident from the opening bell.

    Also, one might have to factor in the whole rehydration controversy in Lara's fight with Angulo, as well as Canelo's refusal to make weight against el perro.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
      lol I cry myself to sleep every night because we might never have a star as big as Canelo. Heh, heh, heh.... Of course, we don't have nearly 150 million fans like the Mexican and Mexican-American fanbase. Who brags about shit like that? SMH
      Not you two because you can't. Cuba 11.27 million population plus 1.9 million estimated living in USA. Puerto Rico 3.667 milion plus 4.9 million estimate in USA. Puerto Rican boxers are more popular than Cubans. Now Argentinian boxers are even more popular than Cuban boxers. Popularity whether you like it or not it matters, boxing is business.
      Last edited by Czarczar; 05-21-2014, 08:40 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        lol I cry myself to sleep every night because we might never have a star as big as Canelo. Heh, heh, heh.... Of course, we don't have nearly 150 million fans like the Mexican and Mexican-American fanbase. Who brags about shit like that? SMH
        Lmao for real bro the shyt these guys use to debate boxing on this forum is not only borderline ******ed but hilarious too

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Czarczar View Post
          Not you two because you can't. Cuba 11.27 million population plus 1.9 million estimated living in USA. Puerto Rico 3.667 milion plus 4.9 million estimate in USA. Puerto Rican boxers are more popular than Cubans. Now Argentinian boxers are even more popular than Cuban boxers. Popularity whether you like it or not it matters, boxing is business.
          Let me help explain it to you...I don't care about a boxers popularity at all! I care about who's the best...period

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          • #55
            Originally posted by kozone View Post
            Lmao for real bro the shyt these guys use to debate boxing on this forum is not only borderline ******ed but hilarious too
            lol It's nice and all that your guy is popular...but is this a cheerleading competition, or are we here to talk boxing?

            No Cuban fighters promised me any money, bro. You?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Czarczar View Post
              Not you two because you can't. Cuba 11.27 million population plus 1.9 million estimated living in USA. Puerto Rico 3.667 milion plus 4.9 million estimate in USA. Puerto Rican boxers are more popular than Cubans. Now Argentinian boxers are even more popular than Cuban boxers. Popularity whether you like it or not it matters, boxing is business.
              Again...why are you bragging about shit like that? The whys and wherefores about the popularity, or lack thereof, of Cuban boxers has been discussed many times around these parts. I don't have the time or inclination to debate the subject -- yet again -- with you. You went a long way to answering the question for me. The vast majority of Cubans couldn't support their fighters if they wanted to. As for the business of boxing, I'm not seeing a dime. Are you?

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              • #57
                Let's get down to boxing. Lara plans to surround Canelo, give him angles. Work off his jab, that jab what hangs out there, rubbing eyes and range finding. Canelo has to turn with him, lead or counter that dangling jab. Lara is just wishing when his makes these types of statements, sounds like doubt. Why even mention Angulo except to bolster his own confidence. This is the Angulo PETUFF wants for Melendez, that's either an insult or low esteem.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                  Let's get down to boxing. Lara plans to surround Canelo, give him angles. Work off his jab, that jab what hangs out there, rubbing eyes and range finding. Canelo has to turn with him, lead or counter that dangling jab. Lara is just wishing when his makes these types of statements, sounds like doubt. Why even mention Angulo except to bolster his own confidence. This is the Angulo PETUFF wants for Melendez, that's either an insult or low esteem.
                  Well, in reality, that Angulo statement was probably made by Lara's manager. He tends to make a lot of statements attributed to his fighter.

                  The way I see it, conditioning is going to be a big factor. Will Canelo stop Landy early? I don't think so. Lara had never even been knocked down before the Angulo fight; and Perro, a heavy and relentless puncher, wasn't able to close the show. Once the fight gets past the middle rounds, Lara might start imposing himself (that is, of course, if he doesn't become too inactive). It's going to come down to whether the judges are fair or not. I think Landy is likelier to outpoint Alverez than Canelo is likely to KO Lara.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Corelone
                    Let's get down to boxing. Lara plans to surround Canelo, give him angles. Work off his jab, that jab what hangs out there, rubbing eyes and range finding. Canelo has to turn with him, lead or counter that dangling jab. Lara is just wishing when his makes these types of statements, sounds like doubt. Why even mention Angulo except to bolster his own confidence. This is the Angulo PETUFF wants for Melendez, that's either an insult or low esteem.
                    He or his manager are just talking smack to hype the fight. Lack of confidence? I doubt it. That's something you'll probably almost never find in a Cuban boxer. They're as ****y as they get.

                    It's not Lara's jab that Canelo has to worry about but his lead right hook. Everyone's aware of Lara's straight left but something people almost never talk about, his lead right hook.


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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                      Let's get down to boxing. Lara plans to surround Canelo, give him angles. Work off his jab, that jab what hangs out there, rubbing eyes and range finding. Canelo has to turn with him, lead or counter that dangling jab. Lara is just wishing when his makes these types of statements, sounds like doubt. Why even mention Angulo except to bolster his own confidence. This is the Angulo PETUFF wants for Melendez, that's either an insult or low esteem.
                      Easier said than done. Behind that lazy jab is a laser left that lands with precise accuracy. He will beat you to the punch and he either smothers you or he's out in a hurry. He's got a good sense of distance and he's rarely in punching range. I don't think countering Lara and allowing him to get off first is the right move.

                      The fighter that had the most success: Molina was able to close the distance, get to the body and score on the inside. I think that's where Canelos advantages are.

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