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  • Bronx2245
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    #221
    Originally posted by Snake4380
    If Marquez refuses to take the test after the difference in body size and acne..yes I will be on here blasting Marquez...but if Marquez agrees to VADA testing..and Pacquiao tells Marquez he has to wear 10oz. Gloves, leave his promoter Bob Arum, and give Pacquiao a few fights under Pacquiao's promotional company...then I will be defending Marquez and blasting Pacquiao!
    If Marquez says he's scared of needles, or turns down $40 million dollars, or his cuts aren't healed in six months, or he can't fight until an outdoor stadium is built, i'll be on here blastin' him too. How do you sue someone for making allegations, then this happens:

    "Welterweight boxers Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez face off on December 8th in Las Vegas to contest their fourth bout against one another. Speculation of steroid abuse has once again hit the table ahead of the fight, only this time it’s not being thrown in Pacman’s direction.

    In an interview with USA TODAY this week, Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, leveled the accusation against his fighters opponent. In the interview Roach said “If his body is natural, I will kiss his ass”, and later went on to discuss the changes in Marquez’s body.

    In that same article, Marquez shrugged off the allegations and discussed the strength and conditioning training he is undergoing with Angel Hernandez. He states that his workouts have changed and become more focused on enhancing both speed and strength at the same time.

    Given this, I find it interesting to read that Roach feels there are artificial means to the weight gain and sculpting of Marquez while the same changes his own fighter went through during his meteoric rise through the weight classes was carefully planned diets and workouts.

    Is either man doping? I doubt it, but cannot categorically say no."

    Welterweight boxers Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez face off on December 8 th in Las Vegas to contest their fourth bout against one another...

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    • Snake4380
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      #222
      Originally posted by Ged021
      Pacquiao: health comes first
      Replace Pacquiao with Mayweather and you've got it

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        #223
        Originally posted by Snake4380
        If Marquez refuses to take the test after the difference in body size and acne..yes I will be on here blasting Marquez...but if Marquez agrees to VADA testing..and Pacquiao tells Marquez he has to wear 10oz. Gloves, leave his promoter Bob Arum, and give Pacquiao a few fights under Pacquiao's promotional company...then I will be defending Marquez and blasting Pacquiao!
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        If Marquez says he's scared of needles, or turns down $40 million dollars, or his cuts aren't healed in six months, or he can't fight until an outdoor stadium is built, i'll be on here blastin' him too. How do you sue someone for making allegations, then this happens:

        "Welterweight boxers Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez face off on December 8th in Las Vegas to contest their fourth bout against one another. Speculation of steroid abuse has once again hit the table ahead of the fight, only this time it***8217;s not being thrown in Pacman***8217;s direction.

        In an interview with USA TODAY this week, Pacquiao***8217;s trainer, Freddie Roach, leveled the accusation against his fighters opponent. In the interview Roach said ***8220;If his body is natural, I will kiss his ass***8221;, and later went on to discuss the changes in Marquez***8217;s body.

        In that same article, Marquez shrugged off the allegations and discussed the strength and conditioning training he is undergoing with Angel Hernandez. He states that his workouts have changed and become more focused on enhancing both speed and strength at the same time.

        Given this, I find it interesting to read that Roach feels there are artificial means to the weight gain and sculpting of Marquez while the same changes his own fighter went through during his meteoric rise through the weight classes was carefully planned diets and workouts.

        Is either man doping? I doubt it, but cannot categorically say no."

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...pacquiao-fight
        Floyd-worshipers discuss blood-testing as if Pacquiao hasn't been tested already under VADA and NSAC random-blood-style and dominated both fights lol, and one was against a top pound for pound fighter.

        So your logic is Pacquiao should fight Marquez without VADA testing...possibly lose again..and then you can say Floyd would have beaten Pac because he dominated Marquez and Pac lost to him? <~~you and Floyd....you mad bro?

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          #224
          Originally posted by Snake4380
          If Marquez refuses to take the test after the difference in body size and acne..yes I will be on here blasting Marquez...but if Marquez agrees to VADA testing..and Pacquiao tells Marquez he has to wear 10oz. Gloves, leave his promoter Bob Arum, and give Pacquiao a few fights under Pacquiao's promotional company...then I will be defending Marquez and blasting Pacquiao!
          LOL Icwutudidthere Nice post!

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          • John Barron
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            #225
            this is absurd. marquez has passed all the tests. let the commission do it's job. pacquiao is a coward.

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              #226
              Originally posted by Snake4380
              Floyd-worshipers discuss blood-testing as if Pacquiao hasn't been tested already under VADA and NSAC random-blood-style and dominated both fights lol, and one was against a top pound for pound fighter.

              So your logic is Pacquiao should fight Marquez without VADA testing...possibly lose again..and then you can say Floyd would have beaten Pac because he dominated Marquez and Pac lost to him? <~~you and Floyd....you mad bro?
              JMM has been tested under USADA and requested random testing for the Pacquiao fight which Pacquiao turned down.

              The position is reversed and now the fans have done a 180.

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                #227
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                JMM has been tested under USADA and requested random testing for the Pacquiao fight which Pacquiao turned down.

                The position is reversed and now the fans have done a 180.
                Yah JMM was tested under USADA and he lost the fight and had less power than soft-punching Bradley in the fight who knocked him down during an exchange lol...

                Oh yeah..you really proved your point...

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Snake4380
                  Yah JMM was tested under USADA and he lost the fight and had less power than soft-punching Bradley in the fight who knocked him down during an exchange lol...

                  Oh yeah..you really proved your point...
                  He requested random testing before the 4th fight and Pacquiao turned it down.

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                  • Snake4380
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    He requested random testing before the 4th fight and Pacquiao turned it down.
                    Oh please..lol...don't be facetious now...you know damn well the contract had already been signed...and Marquez was bluffing and overconfident because he hired the guy whose whole life has been trying to beat those tests lol...

                    I don't get it...do you have a man-crush on Floyd? So you suspect Pac is on PEDs but Marquez doesn't seem su****ious to you...hiring Memo...the acne...his sudden power and body lol?

                    What's your point? Pac should fight with no testing?

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                    • Bee Keepz
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      If Marquez says he's scared of needles, or turns down $40 million dollars, or his cuts aren't healed in six months, or he can't fight until an outdoor stadium is built, i'll be on here blastin' him too. How do you sue someone for making allegations, then this happens:

                      "Welterweight boxers Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez face off on December 8th in Las Vegas to contest their fourth bout against one another. Speculation of steroid abuse has once again hit the table ahead of the fight, only this time it’s not being thrown in Pacman’s direction.

                      In an interview with USA TODAY this week, Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, leveled the accusation against his fighters opponent. In the interview Roach said “If his body is natural, I will kiss his ass”, and later went on to discuss the changes in Marquez’s body.

                      In that same article, Marquez shrugged off the allegations and discussed the strength and conditioning training he is undergoing with Angel Hernandez. He states that his workouts have changed and become more focused on enhancing both speed and strength at the same time.

                      Given this, I find it interesting to read that Roach feels there are artificial means to the weight gain and sculpting of Marquez while the same changes his own fighter went through during his meteoric rise through the weight classes was carefully planned diets and workouts.

                      Is either man doping? I doubt it, but cannot categorically say no."

                      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...pacquiao-fight
                      I've NEVER heard Pac say he's afraid of needles.

                      I thought he said he was afraid of getting blood too close to the fight.

                      Here's a video from '05...



                      ...also here he is saying he's willing to do it as long as it's not too close to the fight, looks like it was right after May-Mosley fight.



                      This is coming directly from him, NOT Roach or Arum.

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