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  • #31
    FREDDIE ROACH MAKES ACCUSATIONS ABOUT "SHADY" ALEX ARIZA; QUESTIONS MYSTERY DRINK GIVEN TO PACQUIAO

    "I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao. According to Roach, he wasn't surprised when he heard the news because, evidently, he also questioned some of the things Ariza did with his star pupil, 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, over the course of the 4-plus years they worked together.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      Year-round random testing is absolutely useless though unless it's done all across the board. The whole purpose is to protect both fighters. You cannot have one fighter doing random testing year-round, and then his opponent(s) are doing NOTHING.

      And if Donaire tests positive out of competition when he has no fight scheduled, will anything happen to him? NOPE! He's not going to get fined, suspended, nothing.

      Unless NSAC, California, and other Commissions demand out of competition random testing for the majority of fighters, it is useless unfortunately.

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      • #33
        so i didn't bother watching the vid whats the synopsis? And in what way is it insinuating something negative about pacquiao as i presume it is.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post
          Jesus Christ. The irony. They're mocking pactards on other threads for having criticised OST. And at the same time they're saying that year round testing is useless and unworkable.

          This is what fanaticism does to people. Most of these dudes love Floyd so much they're letting their ****s do all the thinking and the typing for them.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
            Jesus Christ. The irony. They're mocking pactards on other threads for having criticised OST. And at the same time they're saying that year round testing is useless and unworkable.

            This is what fanaticism does to people. Most of these dudes love Floyd so much they're letting their ****s do all the thinking and the typing for them.
            If year-round testing is not done for the majority -- it is useless! Prove it otherwise. Why should one fighter be doing year-round testing, while potential opponents are not doing the same? Is that even fair?

            We'll see if you can answer.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post
              Would it be fair if for Pacquaio vs. Marquez 5, Pacquaio only underwent random drug testing through NSAC or VADA, but Marquez doesn't even do random drug testing whatsoever?

              That wouldn't be fair right? That would be foolish of Team Pacquaio right? Pointless right? Hence the problem with year-round random drug testing if it's not done for most of the fighters.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Solarius View Post
                FREDDIE ROACH MAKES ACCUSATIONS ABOUT "SHADY" ALEX ARIZA; QUESTIONS MYSTERY DRINK GIVEN TO PACQUIAO

                "I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao. According to Roach, he wasn't surprised when he heard the news because, evidently, he also questioned some of the things Ariza did with his star pupil, 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, over the course of the 4-plus years they worked together.

                Let's be real here. This was said after Ariza kicked Roach in the chest. Now Roach is bad-mouthing him. He had nothing like this to say before so don't take it as gospel. Manny drank Jack-3d before his workouts. pretty sure its all legal. I think there are videos of Ariza talking about it and mixing it for Manny.

                Also, to say Ariza "learned his craft" from memo is absurd, and very uneducated. The dudes apparently worked together at some point. Ariza is a college educated sports trainer. That's where he "learned his craft" take your agendas elsewhere.

                Juan is showing signs of drug abuse. Clear as day. Him being on something has nothing to do with Manny being on something. Nothing at all.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by OK JIM! View Post
                  Let's be real here. This was said after Ariza kicked Roach in the chest. Now Roach is bad-mouthing him. He had nothing like this to say before so don't take it as gospel. Manny drank Jack-3d before his workouts. pretty sure its all legal. I think there are videos of Ariza talking about it and mixing it for Manny.

                  Also, to say Ariza "learned his craft" from memo is absurd, and very uneducated. The dudes apparently worked together at some point. Ariza is a college educated sports trainer. That's where he "learned his craft" take your agendas elsewhere.

                  Juan is showing signs of drug abuse. Clear as day. Him being on something has nothing to do with Manny being on something. Nothing at all.
                  Ariza himself WHILE WORKING WITH MANNY SAID MANNY DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS GIVING HIM...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                    So mayweather doesnt take Olympic style testing.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MaskedMurderer View Post
                      So mayweather doesnt take Olympic style testing.
                      ok............

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