Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
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Julio Ceeaser Chavez SR. Vs Juan Manuel Marquez...
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i'd pick marquez to win by UD.
marquez does well against come forward fighters and also add the fact that this new marquez hits like a truck.
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I haven't seen much of Chavez Sr. Remember DLH tore him up silly. Perner made him look like a fool and against Meldrick he got lucky. Kostya tore him up...
I don't know why he is held in such a high regard. He beat a lot of nobodies, he did beat Roger Mayweather, whatever. Then Camacho and I don't know who else he beat.
His resume is **** compared to Marquez.
The measure of a good fighter is how they fight once they are past their prime like Pacman, JMM, Hopkins and Floyd.
Tyson, Roy Jones, Mosley, Barrera and Morales were great in their prime but as soon as they lost a little bit of speed, strength and punch resistance they were dominated.
JMM>JCC
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Originally posted by pesticid View PostI haven't seen much of Chavez Sr.Remember DLH tore him up silly. Perner made him look like a fool and against Meldrick he got lucky. Kostya tore him up...
I don't know why he is held in such a high regard. He beat a lot of nobodies, he did beat Roger Mayweather, whatever. Then Camacho and I don't know who else he beat.
His resume is **** compared to Marquez.
The measure of a good fighter is how they fight once they are past their prime like Pacman, JMM, Hopkins and Floyd.
Tyson, Roy Jones, Mosley, Barrera and Morales were great in their prime but as soon as they lost a little bit of speed, strength and punch resistance they were dominated.
JMM>JCC
First line literally takes any sort of credibility you could've had in your post. You might want to do more research before posting something so ignorant. Calling his resume **** compared to Marquez made me lol knowing how Marquez doesn't have the strongest resume either.
Chavez is too skilled,relentless,and aggressive even for such a skilled guy like Marquez.
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Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View PostFirst line literally takes any sort of credibility you could've had in your post. You might want to do more research before posting something so ignorant. Calling his resume **** compared to Marquez made me lol knowing how Marquez doesn't have the strongest resume either.
Chavez is too skilled,relentless,and aggressive even for such a skilled guy like Marquez.
How about I make it easier. What's Chavez's best win - Meldric, Roger, Camacho or his "draw" with Whitaker?
And then are we talking about a prime Chavez beating a prime JMM? Or are we talking a past his prime Chavez vs past his prime JMM cause you know a past his prime Chavez won't even last 7 rounds against a past prime JMM.
Again, a mark of a truly great fighter lies in his longevity like JMM, Hopkins, Pacman, Hopkins and not in their perceived physical prime like Mosley, Dawson, JCC, Roy Jones, Tyson, Kostya, Barrera, Morales, Camacho.
So JMM has the style to beat JCC in any point of their careers, before prime, at prime, past his prime JCC will be counter-punched and beaten, maybe even by ko/tko.
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yah marquez always had problems with speedy and intelligent fighters.
not only is marquez speedy but he also has a very high ring iq and has huge punching power.
Originally posted by pesticid View PostI haven't seen much of Chavez Sr. Remember DLH tore him up silly. Perner made him look like a fool and against Meldrick he got lucky. Kostya tore him up...
I don't know why he is held in such a high regard. He beat a lot of nobodies, he did beat Roger Mayweather, whatever. Then Camacho and I don't know who else he beat.
His resume is **** compared to Marquez.
The measure of a good fighter is how they fight once they are past their prime like Pacman, JMM, Hopkins and Floyd.
Tyson, Roy Jones, Mosley, Barrera and Morales were great in their prime but as soon as they lost a little bit of speed, strength and punch resistance they were dominated.
JMM>JCC
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