This is the Only SMOKING GUN I need When it comes to Marquez

[Black Barty]

its quite obvious the guy in my avatar is a fictional character from a popular show. lmfaooo im not the one accusing strangers online of being fat and out of shape.

that would be you. im merely pointing out that beercules is in the military special forces. he is a lounge regular. you cant be out of shape to do that.



lmfaaooo at circumstantial evidence then accusing pacquiao of ped use because of "significant skull growth" LMFAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Good job ducking the point of my post. Or maybe you missed it. Let me repeat it.

JMM's acne is circumstantial evidence at best. So is Manny's skull growth. HOW in the world is one more su****ious than the other?

How is hiring Memo more su****ious than Roach saying he "didn't know what Ariza was giving Manny"? Just how?

[TintaBoricua]

Half the people posting here "lol" and "LMFAO" are not really laughing out loud or laughing their effing ass off. Stop "lol" abuse. You can make a difference. Start here, start now.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Good job ducking the point of my post. Or maybe you missed it. Let me repeat it.

JMM's acne is circumstantial evidence at best. So is Manny's skull growth. HOW in the world is one more su****ious than the other?

How is hiring Memo more su****ious than Roach saying he "didn't know what Ariza was giving Manny"? Just how?

because ariza isnt memo heredia. i mean for you to say memo's extensive ped background is the same as roach saying he doesnt know what ariza was giving him is quite a reach.

that's what you call a false equivalency.

smdh at your incredulous "just how" retort.

because pacquiao hasnt had signficant skull growth unless of course your talking about when he was an infant to what he is now. then yea you have a point.

marquez never had acne before now he's hiring a notorious ped chemist and suddenly he has acne on his chest.

again, false equivalency.

[Chuckguy]

Juan isn't going to fail the test, Memo is too good for that. And lol at "vigorously" defending Pacquiao, I asked you at what point in his career did you suspect he was using a PED?

I'll answer the question. PAC was juicing or pending when he started jumping up in weight. It's on record that Ariza sought the advise of Memo as to what was the best way for PAC to move up in weight.
I course u PAC fan boys won't beleive anything.
Fans of the sport like me are realists who understand that failed tests more tests or associating with Ped chemist aside most of the elite boxers and MMA are on something illegal.

[Black Barty]

because ariza isnt memo heredia. i mean for you to say memo's extensive ped background is the same as roach saying he doesnt know what ariza was giving him is quite a reach.

that's what you call a false equivalency.

smdh at your incredulous "just how" retort.

because pacquiao hasnt had signficant skull growth unless of course your talking about when he was an infant to what he is now. then yea you have a point.

marquez never had acne before now he's hiring a notorious ped chemist and suddenly he has acne on his chest.

again, false equivalency.

Ok, nice debating with you. You won. I have no choice but to bow down to your fanboyism, bias and lack of touch with reality.

See you 'round.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I'll answer the question. PAC was juicing or pending when he started jumping up in weight. It's on record that Ariza sought the advise of Memo as to what was the best way for PAC to move up in weight.
I course u PAC fan boys won't beleive anything.
Fans of the sport like me are realists who understand that failed tests more tests or associating with Ped chemist aside most of the elite boxers and MMA are on something illegal.

According to this guy:

Manny drains himself at FW/SFW and rehydrates to atleast 140-141 during those days "Oh he juicing doe"

For ****s sake look at what Mike Alvarado does to fight at 140.

[Holywarrior]

because ariza isnt memo heredia. i mean for you to say memo's extensive ped background is the same as roach saying he doesnt know what ariza was giving him is quite a reach.

that's what you call a false equivalency.

smdh at your incredulous "just how" retort.

because pacquiao hasnt had signficant skull growth unless of course your talking about when he was an infant to what he is now. then yea you have a point.

marquez never had acne before now he's hiring a notorious ped chemist and suddenly he has acne on his chest.

again, false equivalency.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=639660

[Chuckguy]

because ariza isnt memo heredia. i mean for you to say memo's extensive ped background is the same as roach saying he doesnt know what ariza was giving him is quite a reach.

that's what you call a false equivalency.

smdh at your incredulous "just how" retort.

because pacquiao hasnt had signficant skull growth unless of course your talking about when he was an infant to what he is now. then yea you have a point.

marquez never had acne before now he's hiring a notorious ped chemist and suddenly he has acne on his chest.

again, false equivalency.

You are so blinded by your own fan boyism it's kinda sad. JMM is suspect no doubt but so is PAC and especially when he went up in weight and has since refused to add any sort of testing. Ariza is a known cheat too just not as publicized as memo.

[Chuckguy]

According to this guy:

Manny drains himself at FW/SFW and rehydrates to atleast 140-141 during those days "Oh he juicing doe"

For ****s sake look at what Mike Alvarado does to fight at 140.

Using the whole weight draining excuse too ok let's go with it. He the same can we said about JMM who is very close in size compared to PAC. So which is it being drained or steroids? You can't have it both ways

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

You are so blinded by your own fan boyism it's kinda sad. JMM is suspect no doubt but so is PAC and especially when he went up in weight and has since refused to add any sort of testing. Ariza is a known cheat too just not as publicized as memo.

pacquiao went up in division more so than weight but even still, what does going up in weight have to do with using peds?

there is no correlation.