This is the Only SMOKING GUN I need When it comes to Marquez

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Why are yall making it so complicated?

He hired Memo Heredia.

That's all you need to know.

Forget about the fact that he started knocking down Pacquiao at his latest age at a higher weight when he never even came close to doing it in his prime.

Forget about the fact that his body at his latest age looked better than his body during his prime.

Forget the fact that he has acne on his chest lmfaaoooo....







He hired Memo Heredia.

That's all you need to know.

[jas]

VADA testing makes no difference, that guy made 20 drugs undetectable

[EXPOSEDheroes]

Why are yall making it so complicated?

He hired Memo Heredia.

That's all you need to know.

Forget about the fact that he started knocking down Pacquiao at his latest age at a higher weight when he never even came close to doing it in his prime.

Forget about the fact that his body at his latest age looked better than his body during his prime.

Forget the fact that he has acne on his chest lmfaaoooo....







He hired Memo Heredia.

That's all you need to know.

Agree 100%. We have some gullible fans who out of flag-bias-desperation, refuse to acknowledge the obvious whether it be roids or plaster wraps.

Take pride in that Cotto has NEVER been accused of being on PEDS. We lose because we come in to the ring CLEAN in a sea of cheating bastards.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

its like a homeless man hiring a master bank robber and everybody knowing it then a bank gets robbed and a homeless man is now living in a mansion with a Ferrari.

that's basically marquez vs pacquiao in the 4th fight.

[Weebler I]

VADA testing makes no difference, that guy made 20 drugs undetectable

Yet they still refuse to do VADA. Heredia has some fear of them.

OP is of course correct, but the sad thing is I think JMM only hired Heredia because he believed all Floyd's talk about Pacquiao being on steroids.

[Evil_Meat]

I'm glad more and more people are starting to understand how many fighters juice. Not many get caught because history tells us that the drugs are always ahead of the testing. You don't even have to be very smart to cheat in pro boxing you could just use testosterone suspension which is out of your system rapidly + HGH which nobody including vada is likely to catch. (ppl say they can test for HGH but thats mostly bs it's very hard to detect).

edit: Seriously though with how easy it is to get away with it and Marquez fighting Pac with all that money on the line nobody should be surprised at what 9/10 pro atheletes would do with all that money on the line.

[Willthethrill]

if you are desperate enough to drink your own piss, peds would never be out of the question

[Beercules]

I can't believe it. Well, I could but I never thought it would be as obvious as body acne

[dan_cov]

I find him suspect but so what if his body looks better now. I should damn well think so when he has a S&C coach on board. Believe it or not that is what S&C does when combined with a good diet.

From the second fight. 2008



2008 Cassa weigh in



They was before he hired Memo or did S&C work

2012


Are the changes really that drastic?

The guy has always been in damn good shape. Alarm bells are ringing but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? He was tested for the Pac fights and never once came back positive.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I find him suspect but so what if his body looks better now. I should damn well think so when he has a S&C on board. Believe it or not that is what S&C does when combined with a good diet.

From the second fight. 2008



2008 Cassa weigh in



They was before he hired Memo or did S&C work

2012


Are the changes really that drastic?

The guy has always been in damn good shape. Alarm bells are ringing but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? He was tested for the Pac fights and never once came back positive.

its his age as well.

sure he looks good in those pics, but how old was he?

you dont have his body at his age without peds especially career lower weight fighters.