This is the Only SMOKING GUN I need When it comes to Marquez

[Willthethrill]

I find him suspect but so what if his body looks better now. I should damn well think so when he has a S&C coach on board. Believe it or not that is what S&C does when combined with a good diet.

From the second fight. 2008



2008 Cassa weigh in



They was before he hired Memo or did S&C work

2012


Are the changes really that drastic?

The guy has always been in damn good shape. Alarm bells are ringing but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? He was tested for the Pac fights and never once came back positive.

i thought marquez was tested only for the bradley fight? and besides, what does testing matter if memo can evade it?

[FeFist]

its like a homeless man hiring a master bank robber and everybody knowing it then a bank gets robbed and a homeless man is now living in a mansion with a Ferrari.

that's basically marquez vs pacquiao in the 4th fight.

Your analogy makes no sense. If a man was homeless, what would he pay the bank robber with? The money the master bank robber stole from the bank?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

i thought marquez was tested only for the bradley fight? and besides, what does testing matter if memo can evade it?

exactly. marion jones says hello.

[dan_cov]

its his age as well.

sure he looks good in those pics, but how old was he?

you dont have his body at his age without peds especially career lower weight fighters.

He was 34 there. You can go back or forward, the guys always been in top shape to his credit.

You can though. That is what a strength and conditioning program and strict diet will do whether you are 16 or 75
Sure your test and hormone levels lower with age but still a guy especially one new to weights or an S&C program will respond very well regardless of age.

Don't get me wrong I think warning signs are there but I don't particularly see him as more suspect than the next guy.

[dan_cov]

i thought marquez was tested only for the bradley fight? and besides, what does testing matter if memo can evade it?

He was tested for the 4th fight in which he knocked Pacquaio out

Source below:
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...tive-says-nsac


I am aware of Memo's past but with all the su****ions on him I am not sure he'd risk getting caught again & sure he can evade it, but so can anyone else who puts in 10mins worth of research.
You can get fast acting test gels which are in and out your system in 24 or 48 hours you could use to help aid recovery. You can use other drugs and diuretics to masque/flush them out.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

He was 34 there. You can go back or forward, the guys always been in top shape to his credit.

You can though. That is what a strength and conditioning program and strict diet will do whether you are 16 or 75
Sure your test and hormone levels lower with age but still a guy especially one new to weights or an S&C program will respond very well regardless of age.

Don't get me wrong I think warning signs are there but I don't particularly see him as more suspect than the next guy.

i disagree. you cant have that tight of a physique at that age. even someone like hopkins and randy cotoure when they were beating guys into their 40s had a little bit of side fat despite their amazing physiques. marquez body looks like he's in his early 30s.

[Dinamita 03]

its like a homeless man hiring a master bank robber and everybody knowing it then a bank gets robbed and a homeless man is now living in a mansion with a Ferrari.

that's basically marquez vs pacquiao in the 4th fight.

This has to be the ******est analogy I've heard on this forum

Basically your saying Marquez went from being a bum/journeyman to hiring Memo and now because of Memo he's a p4p fighter.

[Fr3$h]

JMM is gonna count every pimple on his chest and give heredia an equal number of right hooks back stage

do your damn job steroid guy

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

JMM is gonna count every pimple on his chest and give heredia an equal number of right hooks back stage

do your damn job steroid guy

he cheaped out in just hiring a ped guy.

should have hired a acne person like jessica simpson and proactive to clear up his ped infested acne.

now his career is ruined because of zits near t*ts.

smdh.

[Pacquiao'd]

Lol at tards talking about someone cheating and smoking guys, shall we revisit pacs stint with cheating and all the smoking guns surrounding him?