This is the Only SMOKING GUN I need When it comes to Marquez

[fighter86]

its like a homeless man hiring a master bank robber and everybody knowing it then a bank gets robbed and a homeless man is now living in a mansion with a Ferrari.

that's basically marquez vs pacquiao in the 4th fight.

what about the other 3 in which he won.

[Pocket Dogs!]

Probably most the elite boxers are on the juice (except for Bradley, he literally juices).

[Chuckguy]

Great post dude great list but which one of them moved up in weight in such a small amount of time and I bet my house all of them would test with vada or usada without question. So IMO PAC is just as suspect as Marquez
If u are too blind to see it then so be it. I can only lead the az to the water hole I can't force him to drink the water.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Great post dude great list but which one of them moved up in weight in such a small amount of time and I bet my house all of them would test with vada or usada without question. So IMO PAC is just as suspect as Marquez
If u are too blind to see it then so be it. I can only lead the az to the water hole I can't force him to drink the water.

sigh, smdh......

this is exactly how i feel after reading this post.

have you not read this thread? that has already been explained and debunked to death with graphs and all.

Do you think this guy roided out?:



because he held 3 divisions all at the same time. Even pacquiao didnt do that.

There has been no sudden weight gain or weight anomaly when it comes to pacquiao.

Ive been trying to tell you what pacquiao did IS NOTHING NEW. ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE COUNTLESS TIMES THROUGHOUT BOXING HISTORY!!!

[Suavecito80]

He posted proof of being in the military lol. Beercules is a legit one and deserves respect for doin things im too scared to do.

I did four years in the Marines. Who cares though as far as this subject goes?

[Chuckguy]

sigh, smdh......

this is exactly how i feel after reading this post.

have you not read this thread? that has already been explained and debunked to death with graphs and all.

Do you think this guy roided out?:



because he held 3 divisions all at the same time. Even pacquiao didnt do that.

There has been no sudden weight gain or weight anomaly when it comes to pacquiao.

Ive been trying to tell you what pacquiao did IS NOTHING NEW. ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE COUNTLESS TIMES THROUGHOUT BOXING HISTORY!!!

Answer my question. Why is it ok fr PAC who is moving up in weight so fast to duck extra testing? Back them there wasn't steroids or peds so u r comparing apples to oranges.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Answer my question. Why is it ok fr PAC who is moving up in weight so fast to duck extra testing? Back them there wasn't steroids or peds so u r comparing apples to oranges.

jesus h ****ing christ are you serious with this post after everything?



enjoy your ******ity and ignorance. im gonna let you try to figure out that answer.

im done with you. ive given you historical facts and given you analytical insight.

do with it as you please.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

my final say on the weight thing that has been debunked countless times already. lets look at the weight during pacquiao's "rise" in weight/division up to the cotto fight which was his apex form:

2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.


there is no weight anomaly with pacquiao.

none whatsoever.

[Chuckguy]

Neither has JMM but we is a cheat gtfoh
Just face the facts both are on some sh it plain and simple

[Resilient]

my final say on the weight thing that has been debunked countless times already. lets look at the weight during pacquiao's "rise" in weight/division up to the cotto fight which was his apex form:

2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.


there is no weight anomaly with pacquiao.

none whatsoever.