Comments Thread For: Haye: Wilder's Power is Real, Stiverne is Easy For Him

[ShoulderRoll]

There you have it, the power is very real. Straight from the mouth of David Haye.

Boooomb Squaaaad!

[dlee020420]

Why is david have so chirpy lately

[hillbilly]

CZ isn't 115lbs and the ***** was cowering. He was in full "please don't hit me mode" and milling Wilder was struggling to connect clean in the 5s he knew he had before CZ bailed through the nearest exit or somebody jumped on him to save the kid's life.

People in this forum are sucking Stiverne's **** because he beat a faded, flabby, stationary Arreola who's idea of head movement is slipping imaginary punches in the 1st round before standing in the pocket waiting to be clocked.

Stiverne's jab from the hip was pretty bad in that fight, as was his feet. Maybe he has capabilities that he didn't require vs Arreola but from past footage it doesn't seem like it.

Wilder, WK are much bigger, hit a ton harder than Arreola, can be throwing from a range where Stiverne will have to reach, and both just have to lean back a few inches to be way out of range of Stiverne. The Haitian was not exactly looking like he was the master of upper body movement or head movement in there and covering up vs those guys will just delay the KO by a few rounds.

I don't know what it is people on this forum have seen to make them think that Stiverne has the tools to defeat a much bigger guy, because honestly I haven't seen them or seen an explanation. Yeah, he has power at short range vs a guy who doesn't move well and slaps his punches with his hands coming back low whilst his chin is hanging in the air. Let's see that power against a guy that is a much sharper fighter than Arreola - whose biggest win is? Seth Mitchell.

Beating Arreola doesn't prove much in terms of world credentials. Even Adamek did it.

I agree that Stiverne leaves a lot to be desired. He has no head movement and was eating a lot of leather from Arreola. Against a real puncher, he'd have been in real trouble early. He is also very lazy. That being said, he is a fairly good counterpuncher and has real power and fast hands. I would not favor him against many big heavyweights, but I might against Deontay Wilder for a couple of reasons. First, Wilder has avoided fighting anybody with real power. The only guy I can think of with good power that he has fought was Liahkovich--and he had been shot for more than 5 years before that fight. There is a reason why guys with 31 fights are avoiding power punchers--they have chin issues. That su****ion is also backed up by well established reports from insiders. Second, I don't think Wilder could one punch KO Stiverne. Stiverne's chin is pretty good. If Wilder has to throw in combination, he is wild and easily counterpunched. Stiverne can counterpunch with real power. I would expect a fight between the two would see Wilder have some early success, get a bit wild and get KO'd on a counterpunch. Either one would get demolished by Wladimir Klitschko. He hits harder, has a better jab and is a way better technical boxer.

[mathed]

Wilder couldn't even knock out Charlie Zelenoff

lol, barely touched him with a right handed glove on his left hand and was 5/5 on KD's. Zelenoff stayed down and cried no mas.....TKO victory.

[Tay Roc]

to scale, bro?

motion of the ocean?

[-Kev-]

Why could Wilder not knock out a 115 pound white kid?

Zelenoff of all people, took a nice flush shot by Wilder and he wasn't even knocked out, it just hurt him and he got all submissive, but then had all his senses back in seconds and started talking crap again.

That Malik Scott TKO just smells of fakeness. Don't care about any temple shot, or what ever, that looked so fake that people have to slow it down to explain how it hurt Scott, and it's still not believable.

[-Kev-]

lol, barely touched him with a right handed glove on his left hand and was 5/5 on KD's. Zelenoff stayed down and cried no mas.....TKO victory.

He clearly hit him with a solid punch, way worse than the Malik Scott phantom punch

Either Zelenoff = P4P #1 chin, or Wilder is powerful, but not exactly what his record suggests.

[kafkod]

because nobody was counting.
he was on the ground for longer than 10 seconds.



and wilder didn't want to kill him. oh, and he was wearing a right handed glove. there's that as well.




he were a brit you'd have a deontay wilder **** statue. don't even pretend otherwise.

Wilder has a lot of fans in the UK. Just like Americans, many Brits know *** all about boxing.

[PunchyPotorff]

I like Haye, but he's all wet on this one. It would be a very competitive fight, one I think Stiverne would do a number on Wilder with by the 6th. Haye asks how come there aren't others with a 31-0 with 31 KOs record? Simple! Feed ANY fighter a consistent menu of cans and this is what you get. Not saying Wilder doesn't have a punch. He does. Just saying, he also has a very questionable chin, Stiverne can pop, and has had a bit more of a test than Wilder has so far. This would be an excellent, competitive matchup however long it goes... no walk-in-the-park for either fighter. Bring it on!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

lol, barely touched him with a right handed glove on his left hand and was 5/5 on KD's. Zelenoff stayed down and cried no mas.....TKO victory.

The fact that you actually have to make excuses for why he couldn't render that twiglet unconscious says a lot