Big ups to Haitian boxing doing their thing right now!!!

[FilMor]

Hmmmm...not-so-subtle. I think I know what you're about.

Hmm, what there is to think about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispaniola

[CubanGuyNYC]

You are not much of a Haitian athlete if you are consuming north american resources. I've spent a lot of time in the island of Hispaniola, there aren't any gyms worth training in either side of the island. There's not even any interest there, on the sport of boxing. How Fortuna has gotten to this point? No one knows, I think he trains himself in golds gym in the Dr. Those Haitians guys you mentioned are as Haitian as Floyd is African. Or as puerto rican as Danny Garcia.

This topic always sparks bitter debate on this forum: who's Mexican, and who's not; who's Puerto Rican, and who's not, etc. It's clear on which side of that argument you stand. In this particular case, I detect a note of hate in your tone. I don't understand it and I won't try to.

Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere (and the DR isn't far behind). The fact that someone with roots in that land can rise to a world championship is worthy of praise. If people from that country had adequate resources, we'd almost certainly see someone fitting your definition of a "Haitian champion."

[FilMor]

This topic always sparks bitter debate on this forum: who's Mexican, and who's not; who's Puerto Rican, and who's not, etc. It's clear on which side of that argument you stand. In this particular case, I detect a note of hate in your tone. I don't understand it and I won't try to.

Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere (and the DR isn't far behind). The fact that someone with roots in that land can rise to a world championship is worthy of praise. If people from that country had adequate resources, we'd almost certainly see someone fitting your definition of a "Haitian champion."

Hmm.. I'm from the island, I was born there? I just spent 3 months there, and attempted to train, there's absolutely no gyms to train at, people there don't care about boxing.

Now I'm a hater? I'm stating the obvious, these champions are more North American than Haitians, not a bad thing.. I just got a bit technical with it, when I shouldn't have.

In Haiti you got 0 gyms, in the Dominican Republic there's only the Olympic center, and it's a struggle to get there everyday due to logistics. Other countries have more gyms in a 10 mile square radius than the Hispanola has in the whole island.

Allocate your success to the country that allows you to succeed, not the place which does not care about you. So represent Canada and America, if it was the other way around, there wouldn't have been any chances to become champions, it would be likelier that they would be driving cabs in their home country. But you wouldn't know about that, so why argue?

[CubanGuyNYC]

Hmm.. I'm from the island, I was born there? I just spent 3 months there, and attempted to train, there's absolutely no gyms to train at, people there don't care about boxing.

Now I'm a hater? I'm stating the obvious, these champions are more North American than Haitians, not a bad thing.. I just got a bit technical with it, when I shouldn't have.

In Haiti you got 0 gyms, in the Dominican Republic there's only the Olympic center, and it's a struggle to get there everyday due to logistics. Other countries have more gyms in a 10 mile square radius than the Hispanola has in the whole island.

Allocate your success to the country that allows you to succeed, not the place which does not care about you. So represent Canada and America, if it was the other way around, there wouldn't have been any chances to become champions, it would be likelier that they would be driving cabs in their home country. But you wouldn't know about that, so why argue?

What about you being from the island negates anything I said? Nothing at all. You're refusing to accept fighters that share a common background with yourself. By definition, you're "hating." As I said in my earlier post, I've heard your argument before from different sources.

I'm not claiming to know more than you about Hispaniola, even before you asserted that you were born in Haiti. (Which, by the way, is no surprise. It explains your hate. I see the same from those born in Mexico and PR when they deny their own born in other countries.)

I will agree with one thing: people should be grateful and acknowledge the land that granted them the success they enjoy. That, however, doesn't change where you or your people hail from. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that either.

[SlySlickSmooth]

I'm willing to bet most people on BScene that debate whether or not these immigrants or kids of immigrants are in fact able to represent where their bloodline come from are 5th+ gen of North America continent families.

Comparing Floyd is as Kenyan as Bermane/Stevenson is as Haitian is ridiculous considering the nature of blacks in America were robbed of their culture and stolen from their homeland.

[SkillspayBills]

Sak Ap Fete HAITI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Half Haitian and proud of my brethren for showing that that mimulan we eat every damn days gives us freakish power.

[SnakeVen0m]

Sak Ap Fete HAITI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Half Haitian and proud of my brethren for showing that that mimulan we eat every damn days gives us freakish power.

What did Stiverne say in Creole when he was being interviewed after the fight?