Bermane Stiverne vs. Deontay Wilder

[beez721]

He has been in with 50-100 heavies since 2011 and he's been rocked once recovered and won going away. I'm of the opinion that a fighter with a ****ty chin will be hurt more frequently against guys at the back end of the top 100. I consider 'chin' to be related to the ability to see punches and brace for impact. Damn near anyone can get hurt when they are drilled clean. The only time I've seen Wilder drilled clean was against Haye while sparring and he ate it well enough.

I personally think both guys will equally crumble if they get hit clean on the chin by each others right hands. im leaning toward wilder by kayo with his reach and better speed but its a tough one to call. obviously the longer it goes the better it should be for stiverne but my gut tells me wilder catches him early

[Jewish-Reptile]

Gavern used good movement against Wilder and what really kept him in the fight as long as it did was his ability to stop Wilder hitting him flush,even the knock downs I thought weren't the cleanest of hits.

Stiverne and House will have noted this,I suspect they'll utilise movement more so than any other opponent to date,won't get brave standing and trading simple pot shotting from the outside whilst utilising snapping counters hen stepping inside to quickly step back out again.

I've thought over this fight a few times and I'm still of the same opinion time and again having watched particular Stiverne and Wilder fights this week,Wilder is massively overrated,even his power.Scott stood in front of him and let him load up,even his accuracy is questionable,Bermane's is not.

Stiverne by stunning KO.

[Hougigo]

Purses for Saturday***39;s WBC title fights at MGM per NAC: Wilder $1 million, Stiverne $910K; Santa Cruz $750K, Ruiz $50K.

— Steve Carp (@stevecarprj) January 15, 2015

So Wilder is getting paid more than Stiverne. Thats why they held up the purse bid 6 months?

[Jewish-Reptile]

Purses for Saturday***39;s WBC title fights at MGM per NAC: Wilder $1 million, Stiverne $910K; Santa Cruz $750K, Ruiz $50K.

— Steve Carp (@stevecarprj) January 15, 2015

So Wilder is getting paid more than Stiverne. Thats why they held up the purse bid 6 months?

The challenger earns more than the titlist,and Leo is taking 750k for fighting a stiff ,what the f !

[Tom Cruise]

Im convinced theres something dodgy about Haymon fighters purses.

He must be taking a much bigger cut than a manager normally would (being that he's doing a lot of the promoters job too, maybe).

LSC is not making that much for this fight.

I dont know enough about the business to know exactly how, but that's not how much they are getting paid

[johnm is...]

Leo is taking 750k for fighting a stiff ,what the f !

Now you see why his ass don't wanna fight anyone with a pulse.

[DARKSEID]

damn, that announcer is fucking annoying

lol the guy who takes my order at the checkers drive thru can do a better job.

[asgarth]

I saw the two Arreola fights and i saw some good technical skills from Stiverne.

+ he can set traps
+ ability to counter
+ precise
+ finishes well
- doesnt use head movement
- absorbing punches with his high guard is somewhat risky against wilders straight right
- economical

didnt see the ray austin fight, but boxrecs states that 2 judges had austin in front at the time of the stoppage... so was it a case of him being outboxed or just him not being active?

Saw many of Wilders fights, the fights were too short and the opponents to weak for him to display any serious skills.

Most of the time, he just unloaded his right hand and knocked out his limited opposition. From what i can see:

+ Power in his right hand
+ Handspeed
- no punch variety, did not see any uppercuts or real hooks from him
- his combos are wild as f.ck, his finishing combo against harrison was laughable
- telegraphes his punches
- i did not see anything special, no counterpunching, no combos, no footwork, no workrate, no infight game, doesnt fight effectively tall, just him waiting for the right moment to throw his right straight.

I have Stiverne by early knockout

[Dat]

Can't wait for this fight!

[punchr]

Wilder is the last guy I want to piss off. I hope Bermane Stiverne has a gameplan for Wilder rushing him non-stop with bombs. Can't wait. BOOOOMMB SQQUUUAAAAAAD!!!