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  • #11
    If you fools can't understand or see how night and day Floyd and Juan counterpunch then sign out and never come back.

    Juan is an in the pocket counter puncher and is much more aggressive than Floyd. Matter of fact Juan has found himself nearly body to body with Pac and caught him with a left hook nearly behind the head on multiple occasions.

    Fraud on the other hand relies on distance to counter punch. Look at the De La Hoya fight, the Cotto fight for this. He has a habit of backing up in a straight line to counter punch. You can't fight Pac going backwards in a straight line.

    Now Floyd DOES USE lateral movement but he doesn't use it consistently. Floyd can counter for 3 rounds and come forward for 4, but he never really mixes it up the way Juan does in the middle of an exchange/round

    Night and day fellas.
    Last edited by Beercules; 05-08-2014, 03:37 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
      Juan beat manny with a one punch counter. Not saying Floyd will do the same just trying to point out how illogical saying PAC would do what maidana did is. Especially since like someone said manny and PAC don't fight the same either

      so you are trying to counter their illogical opinion with another illogical opinion?

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      • #13
        Here's why......

        Here's why. The experts think that Manny is this world wind brawler who cannot adjust. The experts continue to disrespect his mature style he has grown into. Floyd is this perfect counter-puncher with excellent form and does everything right. Furthermore, when you have a BIG mouth, people tend to start listening quicker than if you were silent. Manny is religious, he's polite, quiet, and always smiling. He carries himself with class and dignity. He respects every opponent and isn't interested in "hype" AT ALL. He is a true throwback who just wants to fight. Floyd is the 2PAC of boxing. People believe everything he says. So that's why the experts say that. Manny beat a top P4P fighter and Floyd struggled with an 18-1 underdog. Bradley is fast, black, athletic, has great stamina, will, and has turned into a good counter-puncher as well. Maidana is a come forward, power-punching fighter who respects no one. He was able to hit Floyd to the body, jab his face, counter him a couple times, and Maidana is SLOW. How great is he? Who's win was more impressive, REALLY? Still Manny, because he is quiet and got cheated by Roidquez, continues to get disrespected the masses. I think that Maidana is only slightly better than Rios. Rios has the better chin, without question. Manny beat him up and did it with pure SKILL. He would do the same to Maidana BUT he would KO him. Maidana wouldn't tough Manny because of Manny's intelligence, foot speed, legs, hand speed, and POWER. He'd disfigure Maidana's face. Floyd is his own boss and doesn't want the fight. He's a LOUD MOUTH racist and Manny is hungrier now and would pay him back for all the things he's unnecessarily said over the years. I give props to the fighter who fights the toughest available opposition and does it with his fists, not his mouth. Floyd is fading fast and he is ready to lose, sooner than later.

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        • #14
          He doesn't.......

          He doesn't need to because he is highly skilled. Maidana HAD to fight that way. Manny's unique skill-set will trouble ANYONE.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Beercules View Post
            If you fools can't understand or see how night and day Floyd and Juan counterpunch then sign out and never come back.

            Juan is an in the pocket counter puncher and is much more aggressive than Floyd. Matter of fact Juan has found himself nearly body to body with Pac and caught him with a left hook nearly behind the head on multiple occasions.

            Fraud on the other hand relies on distance to counter punch. Look at the De La Hoya fight, the Cotto fight for this. He has a habit of backing up in a straight line to counter punch. You can't fight Pac going backwards in a straight line.

            Now Floyd DOES USE lateral movement but he doesn't use it consistently. Floyd can counter for 3 rounds and come forward for 4, but he never really mixes it up the way Juan does in the middle of an exchange/round

            Night and day fellas.
            But Marcos and PAC don't fight the same way. So how can you argue Juan and Floyd don't dight the same and say PAC beats Floyd cause of how Marcos fought?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
              Here's why. The experts think that Manny is this world wind brawler who cannot adjust. The experts continue to disrespect his mature style he has grown into. Floyd is this perfect counter-puncher with excellent form and does everything right. Furthermore, when you have a BIG mouth, people tend to start listening quicker than if you were silent. Manny is religious, he's polite, quiet, and always smiling. He carries himself with class and dignity. He respects every opponent and isn't interested in "hype" AT ALL. He is a true throwback who just wants to fight. Floyd is the 2PAC of boxing. People believe everything he says. So that's why the experts say that. Manny beat a top P4P fighter and Floyd struggled with an 18-1 underdog. Bradley is fast, black, athletic, has great stamina, will, and has turned into a good counter-puncher as well. Maidana is a come forward, power-punching fighter who respects no one. He was able to hit Floyd to the body, jab his face, counter him a couple times, and Maidana is SLOW. How great is he? Who's win was more impressive, REALLY? Still Manny, because he is quiet and got cheated by Roidquez, continues to get disrespected the masses. I think that Maidana is only slightly better than Rios. Rios has the better chin, without question. Manny beat him up and did it with pure SKILL. He would do the same to Maidana BUT he would KO him. Maidana wouldn't tough Manny because of Manny's intelligence, foot speed, legs, hand speed, and POWER. He'd disfigure Maidana's face. Floyd is his own boss and doesn't want the fight. He's a LOUD MOUTH racist and Manny is hungrier now and would pay him back for all the things he's unnecessarily said over the years. I give props to the fighter who fights the toughest available opposition and does it with his fists, not his mouth. Floyd is fading fast and he is ready to lose, sooner than later.
              So Floyd says "I'm the perfect counter-puncher with excellent form and do everything right.!" and all the experts believe it? They don't have to see his fights?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                But Marcos and PAC don't fight the same way. So how can you argue Juan and Floyd don't dight the same and say PAC beats Floyd cause of how Marcos fought?
                Simple: Pacquiaos foot work would cause Floyd so many problems. He's in and out, nearly all the time. Floyd hasn't fought a natural southpaw since Judah, and before Judah mentally cracked like he always does; he WAS having success and even dropped Floyd! Zab couldn't miss with his left hand.

                Ortiz and Robert aren't natural lefties. They are right hand dominant.

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                • #18
                  now we know why Floyd didn't fight PAC

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                  • #19
                    Hehe...these Floyd fanboys never cease to amaze me.

                    Avoiding the most lucrative fight in boxing history is ducking. Especially when you call yourself "Money." You can't have it both ways. Either you accept Pacquiao won't be an easy fight for your idol, and it's okay to duck. Or it's a winnable fight and any excuse not to fight is ducking. Fantasy wins have no place in the sport... You can slice it, dice it, marinade it, it will still taste like chicken. Hehe..

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                      People have been saying that since a pressure fighter gave Floyd a tough fight. But manny struggles with a counter punching Juan each and every time. So that must mean PAC will struggle with Floyd right?
                      Marquez fights back in combination w/ fury when pressured and attacked. Floyd does not. He covered up on the ropes when Maidana pressured and attacked him.

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