Is GGG avoiding Ward or the other way around?

[AKAcronym]

"Golovkin***8217;s built his reputation on saying he***8217;ll fight anybody. I raise my hand and say I***8217;m somebody. Let***8217;s do it. [But] nothing. And then they circumvent and try to go to Chavez. First they said we***8217;re going to stay at 160 and clean it out. Then Chavez fell through and now it***8217;s something else,***8221; Ward would tell BoxingScene and other members of the media.


http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-war...in-more--77544

Yet once again, Chavez was always one of their primary targets, just like he was for Ward at one point (for obvious reasons for both parties); no circumvention involved. Also, even if Ward wanted to fight, his promoter is getting him fights anyway. I didn't want to have to defend Golovkin like this but people really need to understand what's going on and what's been said in the past regarding certain fighters and situations.

[RAV3N]

Martinez lost? So is that why he is still the lineal champion?

I don't care what he does but his fans need to pipe the *** down about people ducking him when he isn't willing to take certain fights himself

Yes, Martinez lost his first fight at 160 against williams who isnt the lineal champ.

Martinez beat Pavlik in his second fight at 160 to be the lineal champ.

As you can see Martinez didnt go straight for the lineal champ when he moved to 160.

When do you see me carrying on like some of the other GGG fans, I know that he is untested and I want him to fight martinez asap.

Im actually a boxing fan, not some fanboy like a lot of the other posters.

[BattlingNelson]

Why is a CW needed for Ward but not Chavez Jr?

And why can GGG offer a fight to Chavez Jr, but Ward has to ask GGG for a fight?

Because Ward is a p4p fighter and leagues above Chavez. Furthermore Kessler said he'd fight GGG at a CW and when he can, then surely Ward can as well.

[bojangles1987]

Martinez's first fight at middleweight was against the lineal champion.

GGG wanted to fight Chavez for money instead of the best fighter at 168.

Why the excuses for GGG?

Wasn't Williams/Martinez 1 at middleweight? So that was the fight he jumped up for.

If I remember right he took it on short notice, too. Paul Williams on short notice is a hell of a lot harder than Kelly Pavlik.

[bojangles1987]

I'm not going to pretend to know how much real interest exists on either side for Ward/Golovkin, but considering the bull**** Ward's putting himself through I doubt he's in position to negotiate for anything, and I'm even more sure Golovkin's people aren't looking to make that fight.

A lot of the talk from earlier this year on both sides suggests they're hoping Golovkin finally gets a shot at the MW crown and the fight gets bigger before it happens.

[MDPopescu]

Is Ward avoiding Kovalev?

Physically Ward/Kovalev are closer than Ward/GGG.

Yes.
Kovalev is everybody's nightmare... he is able to dispatch his opponent in few seconds -- once he figures out the opponent's rehearsed moves...

[ShoulderRoll]

Also, even if Ward wanted to fight, his promoter is getting him fights anyway.

Ward says that nothing in the litigation should be preventing him from still getting fights while it plays out:

This isn’t a lawsuit where the judge has put a mandate or stipulation where I can’t fight. That’s not the case.....It’s not like we’re on the sidelines until this lawsuit is [over]. No, we’re supposed to be fighting.

http://www.boxingscene.com/ward-goossen-not-offered-fight-december--77496

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yes, Martinez lost his first fight at 160 against williams who isnt the lineal champ.

Martinez beat Pavlik in his second fight at 160 to be the lineal champ.

As you can see Martinez didnt go straight for the lineal champ when he moved to 160.

When do you see me carrying on like some of the other GGG fans, I know that he is untested and I want him to fight martinez asap.

Im actually a boxing fan, not some fanboy like a lot of the other posters.

Well I'm pretty sure I've seen you accusing Martinez of "ducking" GGG.

But when people say GGG should fight Ward, you've got every excuse in the book. "He not ready doe!"

[RAV3N]

Well I'm pretty sure I've seen you accusing Martinez of "ducking" GGG.

But when people say GGG should fight Ward, you've got every excuse in the book. "He not ready doe!"

Well imo I think that martinez should have fought the other best fighter at 160 who is GGG.

Martinez decided to take on a bloated cotto instead of a legit contender.

I like the sport of boxing, not who has the bigger paychecks.

I have said it so many times, give GGG a few tune up fights at 168 and then by all means have a crack at ward.

You act like going up in weight and taking on ward is a simple feat, he is one of the best boxers in the world, you need to be prepared for that and not just jump straight into the deep end without testing the waters first.

[Furn]

SOG

Scared of Golovkin.