Comments Thread For: Maidana Rips Mayweather: He is a Crybaby, A Whiner!

[assiong]

Because that is exactly where the rumor about Maidana receiving cash started, so you have some talking about it as if it's a fact. But the source was that Steve Kim tweet.

And a rumor by default is not credible. And the very first thing I said was the rumor started via this... That is essentially me saying 'hey it's just a rumor and it started from here.'

What's the matter with you?

What's the matter with me? Nothing, what's the matter with you?

[NaSaRiO]

Let me preface this by saying I am A fan of BOXING! I find myself defending Mayweather more then any other boxer. Its truly amazing how much hate some of you people have for one man you dont even know.

Anyway lets start with some education. It is not illegal to use your forearm as a defense or to push off to create space. It is however illegal to use your forearm as a strike, pressed against the neck or the face. Excessive holding is illegal, however Mayweather holds one arm which allows his opponent a free arm to work with. Tony weeks allowed Maidana to work the free arm for a few seconds then split the fighters up which is what should be done, and he would probably have let Maidana work a little more if it wasnt for all the low blows,hip blows,and rabbit punches that Maidana was throwing in those situations. Generally because the fighter has a free hand to work it is not considered excessive holding, and Maidana shot himself in the foot by choosing to fight dirty in those moments.

The Gloves. For all the people who act like they have some kind of smoking gun. The blue Gloves that the commission agreed were illegal, Garcia continued to defend those gloves even after they were proven to be insufficiently padded, Why?. Mayweather did not want them using the same style of gloves. When Mayweather fought Cotto, after the weigh in trainer Naazim Richardson noticed that the gloves Canelo was going to wear against Mosely had the thumb stitched to the fist and covered with patent leather. Naazim pointed it out to the commission and the commission agreed the gloves were illegal. Canelo could not use the gloves. Now guess who else was supposed to use those same gloves. Thats right Mayweather. And guess who had to have a different style of Grants flown in the following day, thats right Mayweather. But most of you dont know this because you dont really know what your talking about.

Its only a controversy because you hate Mayweather but glove disputes happen all the time in boxing and the fighter usually has to use a completely different style of glove. And lets be real Maidana couldnt even hit Mayweather cleanly as he even admitted himself so what good would those gloves have done other then cut Mayweather from the grazing blows of an insufficiently padded glove.

you started good but than went on to do the same thing you complained about from the ones who dislike mayweather!!!

so you are correct about this becoming a controversy being bigger than it should and a little bit about the forearms (tho I would say you can not use it to push to make a room for your self).

BUT you failed to mention that Mayweather did not look good, he looks his age now, and that Alexander & Khan did a better job at outboxing Maidana even if we consider that Maidana improved a little. OR that picking the gloves, date, size of the ring is a huge advantage!!!

so I agree with you on ppl who dislike mayweather (or what you call mayweather haters) are a bit picky against him .... in the other hand mayweather fans (including yourself) are not being fair also

[KnickTillDeaTh]

4t1A, you spoke of your knowledge in the sport. The blue gloves were deemed illegal by NSAC after further inspection that it is lack of padding. I get that, I don't care if Garcia continue to argue perhaps Chino wanted to represent his country by customizing it with his country logo. So how come when Team Floyd presented with different colors but same brand and style (Everlast MX) and after the NSAC rep inspected them and approved them. Still a no-no to Team May? Again they were presented by another brand name Cleto Reyes, another brand of gloves that PUNCHERS loves to wear/use. Still a no-no. So what I'm saying is, if the gloves was inspected and approved by the commish how come Floyd insisted to not let Maidana use them?

Forearm to the neck, face, without flicking your hand as a jab is illegal. Excessive holding is illegal. I have seen many times that after threw his combo, he will hold Chinos ARMS. Is that legal or illegal?

Are you part of the NSAC, or have you written one of those rules? Are you a boxing judge? I'm just curious.

Are you talking to me?

[radioraheem]

What's the matter with me? Nothing, what's the matter with you?

Your argument failed miserably. You were trying to argue about something that was already made clear from the start. Get some rest.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

you started good but than went on to do the same thing you complained about from the ones who dislike mayweather!!!

so you are correct about this becoming a controversy being bigger than it should and a little bit about the forearms (tho I would say you can not use it to push to make a room for your self).

BUT you failed to mention that Mayweather did not look good, he looks his age now, and that Alexander & Khan did a better job at outboxing Maidana even if we consider that Maidana improved a little. OR that picking the gloves, date, size of the ring is a huge advantage!!!

so I agree with you on ppl who dislike mayweather (or what you call mayweather haters) are a bit picky against him .... in the other hand mayweather fans (including yourself) are not being fair also

Im a Mayweather fan, Pac fan Cotto fan, Canelo fan, Garcia fan, thurman fan and so on and so forth.

Maidana looked worst then Mayweather so how bad you feel Mayweather looked is really a moot point. And i wasnt discussing the outcome of the fight so i dont know why you would even bring that up.

If you would like to hear my brake down of the fight i would be glad to provide it to you.

You can use forearms to create space you cannot push off, which means you cannot have a full extension of your arms with force toward your opponent.

[assiong]

Tell me Where in the entire fight did Maidana land a punch the had even the slightest chance of Knocking or even shaking Mayweather? By the way not including low blows, rabbit punches,head butts,knees and tackles. I realize that some will laugh but im serious. It didnt matter what gloves he fought in, he couldnt touch Mayweather with anything of consequence. He couldnt even work the cut that he opened with a headbutt, which he admitted himself.

And whats worst is everyone is completely ignoring the fact that the blue gloves were obviously missing padding. Garcia defended them even after the commission said they were illegal, then you want Mayweather to trust gloves from the same corner that just tried to fight him with poorly padded gloves. C'mon. I know he's hated but lets be real here.

Yeah, the blue one was illegal, but what about the red one with the name brand and also MX type? Commish inspected them and approved them. What about Cleto Reyes? Commish inspected them and approved them?

One of the poster on here have a great sig of Maidana connecting those body shots, and a wonderful right hand that connected squarely on Floyds chin that made his head swang sideway. Scroll back you'll see it and it's in slow mo. Now imagine this, if those were the commish approved gloves that landed on Floyds rib cage, chin and temple, what would be the outcome of the fight? Those are the punches that hurt Sotto Karras and Broner, don't tell me floyd would atleast wobbled by those shots or atleast affected by those body shots. Have you seen Flods face after the fight? He have marks and a big lump on his forehead, and those were done by those pillows of a gloves that Team Floyd forced Maidana to wear.

[NaSaRiO]

all and all guys forget Maidana, he looks improved but he will lose 2 or 3 of his next 5 fights (if big fights).

the main thing here is that Mayweather is on his last steps, he is not the same and he is ready to lose .... he can pick strong slow guys and make it last longer like all his last fights (Maidana, Alvarez, Guarerro, Cotto, Ortiz) and making sure to avoid good boxers. and to be more honest he really avoids African American boxers. cuz last one he fought was an old man that almost knocked him out in two rounds before getting dead tired in the 3rd round onwards (Mosley) and the only other one to really hurt him was D.Corley, also an African American boxer.

either way the end is soon.

[heyhi1]

you started good but than went on to do the same thing you complained about from the ones who dislike mayweather!!!

so you are correct about this becoming a controversy being bigger than it should and a little bit about the forearms (tho I would say you can not use it to push to make a room for your self).

BUT you failed to mention that Mayweather did not look good, he looks his age now, and that Alexander & Khan did a better job at outboxing Maidana even if we consider that Maidana improved a little. OR that picking the gloves, date, size of the ring is a huge advantage!!!

so I agree with you on ppl who dislike mayweather (or what you call mayweather haters) are a bit picky against him .... in the other hand mayweather fans (including yourself) are not being fair also

Did you see the punch stats? Do you know mayweathers hand hurt rite before the fight? Did you see mayweather staying on the ropes and when he wanted to move he did? So out of 12 rounds he wins 8 , lands over 60% power punches and over 50 total and hes washed up? You guy's must really think hes a super hero if that's showing age

[NaSaRiO]

Im a Mayweather fan, Pac fan Cotto fan, Canelo fan, Garcia fan, thurman fan and so on and so forth.

Maidana looked worst then Mayweather so how bad you feel Mayweather looked is really a moot point. And i wasnt discussing the outcome of the fight so i dont know why you would even bring that up.

If you would like to hear my brake down of the fight i would be glad to provide it to you.

You can use forearms to create space you cannot push off, which means you cannot have a full extension of your arms with force toward your opponent.

yeah if you put it this way I agree with your point, I think Mayweather won the fight.

I guess I was more about how did the A-side start preform, which was bad lol

[NaSaRiO]

Did you see the punch stats? Do you know mayweathers hand hurt rite before the fight? Did you see mayweather staying on the ropes and when he wanted to move he did? So out of 12 rounds he wins 8 , lands over 60% power punches and over 50 total and hes washed up? You guy's must really think hes a super hero if that's showing age

did you see who was he fighting?

he won the fight for me and I liked how he came back after I had him down 4 to 1 in the first 5.

but come on man he is not the same ... also count in that he was fighting the style that best suits him ... a strong slow guy .... same comments for you man what you are saying is correct but you are not saying the good and the bad for Floyd in the fight ... just mentioning the things that helps his case. maybe when you see maidanas next few fights you will remember that maidana aint nothing and a guy like Floyd or Pac should win 12 or 11 rounds with him.