Just rewatched Mayweather vs Maidana...

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  • hugh grant
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    #141
    Pity, patty punches that you don't have to commit to land don't count.
    Maidana threw more than double punches than Floyd, so won. You cant win a fight by throwing that much less than your opponent, and hoping the judges don't score punches that didn't land.
    Human error, so Floyd is pushing his luck to hope referees see it his way.

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      #142
      When Mayweather wins easily the next time...maybe some of you fools will STFU about him.

      But I doubt it...

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      • A.K
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        #143
        Originally posted by BluesMan
        When Mayweather wins easily the next time...maybe some of you fools will STFU about him.

        But I doubt it...
        just like last time huh so eassyyy he didnt get his ass whooped 5 rounds, could be 7 next time.

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          #144
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Pity, patty punches that you don't have to commit to land don't count.
          Maidana threw more than double punches than Floyd, so won. You cant win a fight by throwing that much less than your opponent, and hoping the judges don't score punches that didn't land.
          Human error, so Floyd is pushing his luck to hope referees see it his way.
          Yes you can.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #145
            Originally posted by BluesMan
            When Mayweather wins easily the next time...maybe some of you fools will STFU about him.

            But I doubt it...
            wins easy? Not sure if serious...

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            • therealpugilist
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              #146
              if you scored it a draw...you cant score fights

              Whoever said you win because you throw more punches illustrated they dont know how to score rounds either.

              You win rounds by ring generalship, effective aggression, defense and punches landed.

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              • MindBat
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                #147
                Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                Scored it a draw. I just don't see how 4corners gives Floyd the 11th round.
                You must be a graduate of the CJ Ross School of Call It A Draw Boxing Scoring.

                That was not a draw. And Maidana scored no knock downs.

                But that's good 'cause those who think Maidana almost beat Floyd, will be hoping he does better and knocks Floyd out which should make for another good scrap.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist

                  You win rounds by ring generalship, effective aggression, defense and punches landed.
                  Marcos "the blueprint" maidana did all these things.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by MindBat
                    You must be a graduate of the CJ Ross School of Call It A Draw Boxing Scoring.

                    That was not a draw. And Maidana scored no knock downs.

                    But that's good 'cause those who think Maidana almost beat Floyd, will be hoping he does better and knocks Floyd out which should make for another good scrap.

                    .
                    Might want to consider rewatching the fight...

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                    • New England
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      if you scored it a draw...you cant score fights

                      Whoever said you win because you throw more punches illustrated they dont know how to score rounds either.

                      You win rounds by ring generalship, effective aggression, defense and punches landed.


                      you win rounds be landing the more effective punches. the rest is a means to an end. you a ring general [in control of space an contact] to avoid your opponents punches, and land your own. you defend to avoid your opponents punches. you're aggressive to land your own punches[hence the term "effective aggression."] you're not effectively aggressive if you move forward and take a beating. you're not a ring general if you get your guy on the ropes [control space] and still eat the more effective punches.


                      you score damage in a boxing match. you ask, simply, who did more damage? "whose punches were more effective?" asks the same question.

                      you give the round to the guy who did more damage [whose punches were more effective.] the scoring criteria is simple, but that doesn't mean everybody can do it.



                      if you really have trouble discerning who did more damage you can call the round a draw. this used to be much more common for pundits and even official judges. go back through the "news paper" era for more information.

                      official judges today will never score a round a draw. they're instructed to look to other things if they think the amount of damage dealt was relatively equal. these other things, not necessarily in order, are effective aggression [the word effective is the important part, and it implies that it allows a fighter to do more damage and to avoid damage coming back,] ring generalship, and defense.



                      heres' a blurb from steve weisfeld, an experienced judge of over 1500 fights, and author.

                      Clean punches: To me, clean punches are the most important aspect, and the other factors are really tied to that. Take the phrase, "effective aggressiveness." How is a boxer effective? He's effective by landing clean punches. How about "defense?" A boxer shows great defense by not getting hit with clean punches. And, finally, the term "ring generalship." A boxer uses the ring to put himself in a position to land clean punches.

                      So let's focus on the phrase "clean punches." It may not be initially apparent, but there are various elements included within that phrase. First, there's the number of punches. The boxer who lands more punches generally wins. However, harder punches count more than lighter punches.

                      Now, there's no mathematical formula that equates the number of punches with the hardness of the punch. The judge has to weigh the two based on his experience. But more important than the number of punches or the hardness of the punch is the effect of the punch. For example, a seemingly lighter punch that causes a boxer to stagger is scored higher than a seemingly harder punch that has no effect.




                      http://www.premierboxingchampions.co...ow-score-fight

                      this is generally a very good resource for those who might still be unclear about how to score rounds.

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