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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by big_james10
    Thurman is a nobody who has fought a bunch of nobodies. This isn't the heavyweight division. You don't get to the top of the welterweight division by fighting d-class fighters and then fighting for a championship against the best fighter in the world.
    ortiz, guerrero, maidana?

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    • bigsmoothh
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      #52
      i doubt floyd fights keith thurman or shawn porter, he rather them two face each other and pick off the winner.

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      • KnickTillDeaTh
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        #53
        I see a lot of post bashing Thurman for not having fought higher ranked fighters. It's actually pretty funny because it is already well known that malinaggi, porter,Maidana, and guerrero all turned down fights against him. He has definitely been avoided and he has definitely tried to secure fights against those considered top fighters. It's not like he's chosen to fight these c level fighters instead, they were the only ones willing to climb in the ring with him, and the reasons don't really matter. If I'm not mistaken the c level fighters that Thurman destroyed almost beat some of those top fighters that won't fight him.

        Should/will he fight Mayweather probably not, but that doesn't change the fact that no top fighters want to fight him. And if Mayweather doesn't fight him it means nothing really. Thurman is green and has no name outside fervent boxing fans. His notoriety is picking up, could blame GBP for the lack of push because Thurman probably has a better resume then GGG at this point, surely comparible, yet GGG is about to secure a match against Chavez Jr., and is always mentioned as a top opponent for Ward and Martinez (whether he deserves it or not).

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        • Snake4380
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          #54
          Originally posted by drenlou
          Nah..thurman aint ready, he can beg all he wants but it aint gonna happen....thurman needs to beat someone in the top 10...personally i wouldnt mind seeing him in the ring wirh guerrero or berto.
          Guerrero beat who in the top 10 for Floyd to fight him lol?
          And you do realize that Thurman destroyed Jesus Soto who destroyed Berto, right?

          Wow, Floyd fan boys and eff boys really would rather see Floyd cherry-pick than fight the best competition lol.

          Scared of Thurman much?

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #55
            Originally posted by drenlou
            Not quite...you cant beat a couple of limes, beat a world champ and expect to fight mayweather!! You're just a thurman fanboy which is cool.
            You can't?
            What did Ortiz,Guerrero,Canelo,Maidana do?
            Did they beat any great fighters to get there shot?

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            • Snake4380
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              #56
              Originally posted by TyrantT316
              Any up and coming talent always looks dangerous when fighting Thurman's quality of opposition. But lets see him beat some top fighters in a main event to sell the public on why he is a threat. Or else he's just another young fighter with hand speed and some TKOs vs gatekeeper opposition.

              Regardless of whether you like it or not, Mayweather and his team take a business approach. Especially now. They fight guys who at least have some sort of "what have you done for me lately/in your last fight" and some sort of market. Floyd is a brand, about making money and looks for name opponents (prime or not), titles at stake and/or opponents with some marketable fan base to stage his "Mayvents". At the end of the day, he's looking to make as much money on his brand as he can. He's not looking to fight any risks for the heck of it during this stretch. Porter deserves a Floyd fight before Thurman after his dominance vs Devon and Paulie. But even Porter isn't much of a name nor has much of a following. The way Canelo and Trout battled, have Thurman and Porter fight each other to sell themselves as a real threat and not just two green challenges with some power and speed like every other new arrival on the scene.

              Khan is being given, probably his last shot, to prove himself as a general public sell for a Mayweather fight. He's is the co-feature, for a title, vs a WW who is coming off of an unexpected KO win. Khan also has a British fan base and a style/length to sell him as a threat.

              Maidana had just beaten another high profile fighter in Broner in a main event, good fight, the general public has been sold on Broner being "like Mayweather", etc***8230;etc..

              Canelo had just beaten the undefeated and at the time, seemingly hard to look good against Trout (who had beaten Cotto). He also had a popular market.

              Guerrero had just beaten a worn Berto, but in a good fight. Guerrero also has an outspoken team and a mexican fan base. Enough to stay busy before Canelo.

              Cotto had just avenged his loss to Margarito and had financial upside to his name, market.

              Ortiz had just beaten Berto in a fight of the year for a title. That title gave him some upside and the main event win in a great fight helped sell.

              Mosley, while a year out, had just beaten and KO'd the avoided and ironed chinned Margarito to lay claim as the recognized best WW in the world.

              Marquez, was smaller, but just topped Juan Diaz and Casamayor. He was also a name who had given Pacman fits.

              Hatton was undefeated with a market and made noise easily KO'ing a past prime Castillo who was old, but it just added to the sell of the fight.

              DLH was the Golden Boy which = money and a title at stake.


              Remember that a key group is "the general public"***8230;internet posters don't make up 1.5million PPV buys. So even though WE may feel that a certain fighter may be more of a threat due to style, arm length, etc, the general public that makes up at least half or most of the buys is usually sold on the fighters who had some sort of big win, credible career or a title. Or else a fighter like Thurman or Porter will easily be written off as some young, inexperienced, not ready challenger as Floyd picks them apart.

              Floyd is smart and experienced. His only other challenger is Pacman. That's more of an era thing. Pacman has the attributes and experience to make it the fight people REALLY want to see.
              I see you're a huge Floyd fan boy. I like how you try to justify why Floyd-opponent choices were justified INSTEAD OF COMPARING THOSE FIGHTS TO THE BETTER CHOICES FOR OPPONENTS AT THE TIME!

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              • Mayweatherducks
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                #57
                Thurman KO's Fraud The Duck.

                Thurman KO's Fraud Gayweater the duck who's going to go after bum ass Khan his next fight who Thurman would also KO. Tell Fraud to stop ducking like Maidana, Guerrero, Porter and Paula did. None of these guys wanna fight 1x.

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                • theboxingguru
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Glad to see Thurman asking for his shot! I was confused by Porter fighting Paulie. Not what a champ should do! I don't think Keith will get a shot in 2014. If Cotto wins, I think we see Floyd vs. Cotto II. If Canelo wins, I could see Canelo vs. Floyd II. Either one is too big to turn down for Floyd!
                  No need for another Canelo, it was not that competitive and Floyd isn't fighting at 154. I guess that will rule out Cotto too. Cotto v. Canelo is the more likely scenario. Honestly, if Porter gets past Kell Brook, he is the most deserving of the available welterweights. But having a fight in July would rule him out for September. Lara and Canelo are fighting in July as well. Who would it be in September? It would have to be Danny Garcia in my estimation.

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                  • mathed
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                    #59
                    Thurman gets beaten by Porter, Pac, Floyd and Maidana.

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                    • Snake4380
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by theboxingguru
                      No need for another Canelo, it was not that competitive and Floyd isn't fighting at 154. I guess that will rule out Cotto too. Cotto v. Canelo is the more likely scenario. Honestly, if Porter gets past Kell Brook, he is the most deserving of the available welterweights. But having a fight in July would rule him out for September. Lara and Canelo are fighting in July as well. Who would it be in September? It would have to be Danny Garcia in my estimation.
                      Actually, Pacquiao is the most deserving of the WWs. But Floyd is too much of a whiner and brat to negotiate with another promoter.

                      Floyd's antics are not good for boxing, and he unfortunately will be remembered as the guy who ducked Pacquiao in his prime and cherry-picked opponents to stay undefeated.

                      Even Canelo was a cherry pick...everyone knew that Canelo had stamina problems, barely got by Trout, and was drained to make 152.

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