Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Marcos Maidana Will Walk Away With Millions

[mathed]

Broner couldn't get Maidana to speak English, but Floyd will...
After the fight, "this is it? Where's the rest?" - Maidana.

LOL, no kidding

[mathed]

If Maidana was offered 40 million I doubt he would get any PPV either.

I surmise they offered him the PPV cut because they don't think this fight will sell THAT well. Good pitch to him I'm sure "We are offering you a cut of the PPV revenue, we have never offered this to anyone before, you'll make millions"

Should be interesting to see the outcome for sure though.

[Bronx2245]

I am pretty sure Maidana gets points at a certain number, while Floyd gets a share from all ppv buys. They did deals like this before with Floyd the fight has to do over 1.5 million buys or more before Maidana gets a percentage. Basically he won't get much or any if the fight doesn't do 1.5 million buys, and the Argentine TV rights are crap he won't get much from anything just like Pac just gets chump pesos from Philippine TV rights.

The reason Maidana's salary is so low is the same reason everyone else who fights Floyd;s is they over pay this guy and he won't take a paycut he is hands down the greediest boxer in the history of the sport. I'm curious to see what type of Profit golden boy makes when Floyd fights since Floyd keeps the majority of the revenue or claims so.

Floyd keeps saying fighters want to fight him because they will get the most money in their career, but the truth is if fighters wanted to fight someone and get paid the most money they should aim to fight Pacquiao, his opponents have made more than Floyds in general. Bradley is a prime example, he made over 10 million in two fights with Manny and he has no fanbase.

funny how Floyd said don't put me in with a six million dollar fighter or six million dollar fight in the same sentence with me referring to Pacquiao, yet he is okay with fighting a 1.5 million dollar fighter in Maidana?

It's ironic you have a picture of Cotto:

*************.com

"This past fight, Mayweather received a guaranteed purse of 32 million dollars, the highest in the history of the sport, and that’s not even including the ppv revenue. He is the biggest attraction in the sport, a distinction he acquired after leaving Top Rank Promotions. Cotto has even benefited from his departure of Arum. He received his biggest payday, a guaranteed 8 million dollars with some ppv revenue as well. The great thing for both fighters is they don’t have to give Arum a cut of their hard earned money, and despite Top Rank having nothing to do with the promotion; it’s going to hold the distinction of being the biggest boxing event of the year. You know Arum is mad he is missing out on this monetary opportunity. Pacquiao should take notes."

http://www.*************.com/columns...weather-cotto/

[V.WEBB]

"Only Floyd **** talk about another man's money! How much are you ****s getting from his check?"

The irony.

[Bronx2245]

Floyd may not give everyone PPV money, but I know for a fact that Cotto and Canelo got PPV money. Actually canelo didn't do that bad, $5million turned to $12 million.

"This fight will gross over $200 million when you take into account all of the revenues. Besides pay-per-view, there's the gate, the foreign television, the sponsors, the closed circuit, the merchandise. Many of those (revenue streams) also broke records. In this fight records were broken."

Mayweather was guaranteed $41.5 million with Alvarez's guarantee in the $12 million neighborhood, but both will earn substantially more based on their deals, especially Mayweather, who controlled the promotion and will keep the bulk of the profits.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9694996/floyd-mayweather-canelo-alvarez-top-grossing-ppv-fight

[Bronx2245]

I think someone said Bradley did better than Canelo. I'm not so sure:

"Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley’s welterweight title fight last month generated between 775,000 and 800,000 pay per view buys, multiple sources familiar with the numbers told SI.com. HBO, which produced and distributed the pay per view, declined comment. The number is a significant improvement for Pacquiao from his last fight. Last November, Pacquaio’s bout against Brandon Rios generated 475,000 buys."

http://mma-boxing.si.com/2014/05/01/pacquiao-bradley-rematch-doesnt-break-one-million-in-pay-per-view-buys/

Besides, Pac vs. Bradley II was Manny's lowest live gate in 8 years:

"It's been a long time since Manny Pacquiao's Nevada gate receipts have dipped below $8 million, but they did just that this past Saturday in his rematch with Timothy Bradley. Last Saturday night's rematch at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley did a live gate total of $7,865,100, with a paid attendance of 14,099, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission."

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/4/15/5617552/pacquiao-vs-bradley-ii-live-gate-comes-in-at-7-8-million-mannys

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You seem to be oblivious to a lot of things, but you are from the UK so I'm sure the boxing business and political way of doing things are very different.

Where I'm from has nothing really to do with the discussion but it shows your lack of intellect that you'd have to go there so quickly.

[mourinho1]

First of all I never called it a "bum deal". Your words not mine. Simply put there is no reason to believe Floyd would have followed through on the 40M to start with but if he did....

I outlined above how the fight can easily generate 250 million dollars. Assuming half goes to the TV broadcasters that leaves 125 million to split.

There is no 20% promoters fee being paid out of the total purse if they fought either. It'd have to be GBP promoted and Arum would have to settle for a cut of Pac's money to step aside. Any of those monies would be paid out separate of each other - after the initial split.

Anyhow my point wasn't that 40 mill was a horrible offer. Moreson that I see them having 120 mill to split if they fought and Pac would be settling for 80 million vs 40 million.

That is probably why Floyd felt confident in making the offer. He knew there was little chance of it being accepted when Pac's team actually looked at the money the fight would generate.

You're implication is that when making 40 million it's not a big deal to leave 10-15 million dollars on the table. That's more than the vast majority of boxers make in their entire careers.

Yes Showtime **** the bed bidding on Floyd. They thought no matter the price it was worth it to bring him on for the image boost alone. They didn't really stop to give serious thought to which viable opponents were out there long enough to realize they'd be lucky to turn a profit in 2 of 6 fights.

Now they are in the position of financially handicapping the quality of boxing programming that put them in a position to steal Floyd in the first place.

You're right about the terrible math skills. Offering Pac 40 million was a joke when you consider it would have generated 2.5 million buys at one point.

Assuming Floyd gets 1.5 for a guy like Cotto that means fighting Pac and getting 2.5 brings in an additional 70 million dollars in PPV revenue alone and 175 million total. The international rights to that fight would have been valuable, it would have been PPV. The gate would have been 22-25 million. The fight would have generated a quarter of a billion dollars.

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2.5M(PPV buys)*35$= 87,5 milion dollars only ppv

but okay hypothetical you go buy total revenue everything included...

i think whether GBP is the only promoter. there goes 20% of 120M=
96M left minus 40=56M left for FMJ

Aight you did well you numbers atleast make sense!!!

we still dont agree, but thats not important.if pac gets 40M and FMJ 56M. thats quite reasonable. Better yet with if we just look at the numbers without emotions involved.

everyone was saying 45%-55% was good.

96*0,45=43.5 M. why hang up the phone within 5 minutes???

talking a few hours/days can get you close to that 45%.

if we agree that offering 40M to start with instead of 43,5M is ok, than we are on the same page