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    #31
    Haye never deserved a shot at Vitali. So he knocked out Derek Chisora, and what?

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    • FlatLine
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      #32
      Originally posted by denium
      Haye never deserved a shot at Vitali. So he knocked out Derek Chisora, and what?
      and vitali ran for his life..

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        #33
        Originally posted by FlatLine
        that's exactly what he did by beating chisora.. if you remember vitali said that he'd fight the winner of haye vs chisora in the post-fight press conference of vitali vs chisora..

        but as soon as haye knocked out chisora, vitali suddenly vanished.. so haye did earn the fight with vitali by easily beating an opponent that vitali struggled with just 5 months earlier but vitali failed to keep his end of the bargain, which was disappointing to say the least...
        Really? That's what happened?

        Because I seem to recall Klitschko already being signed to fight Charr prior to Haye even stepping into the ring against Chisora, then Haye retires less than 4 months after beating Chisora.

        Revisionist historian much?

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          #34
          Originally posted by ßringer
          Really? That's what happened?

          Because I seem to recall Klitschko already being signed to fight Charr prior to Haye even stepping into the ring against Chisora, then Haye retires less than 4 months after beating Chisora.

          Revisionist historian much?
          lol.. you klitschko fans are some of the worst revisionist historians around so it's ironic that you claim others do that..

          after the chisora fight vitali admitted that if chisora was a faster fighter he would have been in trouble... that should give you a clue as to why he avoided haye..

          he didn't sign to fight charr until he realized that haye was actually going to fight chisora, the charr fight didn't happen until 2 months after haye knocked out chisora..

          and most tellingly, shortly after being knocked out by Haye even Chisora said that vitali should stick to his word, be truthful/honorable and fight haye. but he didn't do that.. he basically disappeared from boxing for a long time and then eventually announced his retirement..

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            #35
            Originally posted by FlatLine
            lol.. you klitschko fans are some of the worst revisionist historians around so it's ironic that you claim others do that..

            after the chisora fight vitali admitted that if chisora was a faster fighter he would have been in trouble... that should give you a clue as to why he avoided haye..

            he didn't sign to fight charr until he realized that haye was actually going to fight chisora, the charr fight didn't happen until 2 months after haye knocked out chisora..

            and most tellingly, shortly after being knocked out by Haye even Chisora said that vitali should stick to his word, be truthful/honorable and fight haye. but he didn't do that.. he basically disappeared from boxing for a long time and then eventually announced his retirement..
            1.) I'm not a Klitschko fan. They're boring ****s and I don't like boring ****s, which is why I dislike Haye. He's alright to watch in the ring, but he spends so much time being a boring injured **** outside of it that I can't be bothered.

            2.) Regarding the bolded, of course it didn't happen until after Haye fought Chisora. Haye fought Chisora in July and Klitschko had previously just fought Chisora in February. 5 months is hardly enough time for someone of Vitali's age to get in shape to fight again.

            But he signed to fight Charr a in June. Meanwhile Haye was busy promoting the fight with Chisora as early as February after smashing a that bottle over his face.

            3.) Nice talking to you again, Adam. Tell David to either get his ass back in the ring and prove himself or STFU already. Talk is cheap.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ßringer
              1.) I'm not a Klitschko fan. They're boring ****s and I don't like boring ****s, which is why I dislike Haye. He's alright to watch in the ring, but he spends so much time being a boring injured **** outside of it that I can't be bothered.

              2.) Regarding the bolded, of course it didn't happen until after Haye fought Chisora. Haye fought Chisora in July and Klitschko had previously just fought Chisora in February. 5 months is hardly enough time for someone of Vitali's age to get in shape to fight again.

              But he signed to fight Charr a in June. Meanwhile Haye was busy promoting the fight with Chisora as early as February after smashing a that bottle over his face.

              3.) Nice talking to you again, Adam. Tell David to either get his ass back in the ring and prove himself or STFU already. Talk is cheap.
              you missed the point - it was only when vitali realized that Haye vs Chisora was going to happen (and that he had previously agreed to fight the winner of that fight) that he then signed to fight charr instead. he didn't have to do that, he could have waited until the outcome of the fight which was only a few weeks after he signed to fight charr.. but that was no accident, he simply didn't want to face haye or probably even chisora again (because chisora gave him a surprisingly tough fight).. so vitali fought a bum instead and then retired..

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                #37
                Originally posted by FlatLine
                you missed the point - it was only when vitali realized that Haye vs Chisora was going to happen (and that he had previously agreed to fight the winner of that fight) that he then signed to fight charr instead. he didn't have to do that, he could have waited until the outcome of the fight which was only a few weeks after he signed to fight charr.. but that was no accident, he simply didn't want to face haye or probably even chisora again (because chisora gave him a surprisingly tough fight).. so vitali fought a bum instead and then retired..
                I don't have time to debate this all day, so please refer yourself to point number three.

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                  #38
                  If he can get in the old form I would like to see him again. He is the 2nd best HW IMO.

                  I never had prob with his boxing ability (which I do rate), but his professional ethics is horrible.

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                    #39
                    haye just can't stay healthy. it's as simple as that. his body can't take fighting more then once a year. he is not the only athlete like this. just bad luck. it's too bad because he brings an excited element to the division but now who is going to sign to fight him? the money would be great if haye can make it too the ring without getting hurt but I think he's had 4 signed contracted fights he's pulled out of (no contract signed for vitali so klit fans keep quiet). that's millions out the door for him so these are not fake injuries. Robert helenius is another injury prone guy too. he's had promotional issues & 2 major injuries the last few years after a promising start to his career. both in their early 30s with their prime wasting away. it's too bad as they were both looking like legit title threats... like them or not they are good for the division.

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                      #40
                      Great! Now he can fight Tyson Fury.

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