Chavez unwilling to sign extension

[Ray*]

Am glad he is taking that stance!!! Some fans only care about fights they want to see now for their own selfish reasons, why should he sign an extension to get the GGG fight? It's his right to want or not sign an extension, moreover he wants the GGG fight. So the onus is on the promoter to do as the fighter wishes when it comes with him not wanting an extension.

[ShoulderRoll]

For the others - I just see no reason to villify Arum for making a business decision. If him and other promoters were in the business of letting fighters bank 3M and then walk away - nobody would be in business.

If Chavez Jr is banking $3 million how much do you think Arum is getting? He'll be well compensated, you can be sure of that.

[duwdu]

Fair enough

I totally see JCC's POV. He sees Cotto and Mayweather making more money than before as a FA. He thinks he has the name value to bring in more cash. More power to him - the longetivity for a fighter at the upper levels in short normally - so I want him and all boxers to make as much as possible.

For the others - I just see no reason to villify Arum for making a business decision. If him and other promoters were in the business of letting fighters bank 3M and then walk away - nobody would be in business.

You won't really give up, will you?

Why are you just reaching? What's leading you to assume ***8211; or reach your conclusion. ***8211; that JCCJ is not worth 3 million against GGG, anyways? Shouldn't a fan be happy that a fighter tries to get the most he/she can?

In most cases during negotiations, you get what you can negotiate, not what you deserve, my man.

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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by arraamis

He can't do that without being sued by Arum ..... Breech of contract

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...den-boy-battle

Manny tried to do the same thing and ended up paying royalties to GBP for a long string of fights. BTW GBP sued Arum for the loss revenue, after Pac signed a contract, while being under contract with Top Rank.

This is also basically what started the Cold War. Manny being a dumbass. But for some reason ppl attribute that to Floyd inexplicably.

In a recent interview Floyd says he's not fighting pacquiao cause he's still with bob arum. sure Floyd has nothing to do with it...



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[JDD1]

I'm glad JCC is not willing to sign an extension. He doesn't need ARum, or really any promoter. He will always get people to fight him because of the money he brings.

I do hope the GGG fight gets made though. thought it would be a decent fight.

[V.WEBB]

Good deal Chavez Jr.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Don't blame him, he has seen the effect of his fathers life on him and he doesn't want to make the same mistake that he did.

Chavez Sr fought for so many years and ended up broke, because he didn't take care of his finances. Jr wants to retire rich and make sure his efforts are well paid.

Arum makes a ton of money off him, it doesn't matter how good people think he is or isn't, it's about what crowds he generates and people like to watch him fight.

[Foreign Soil]

Im talking about him fighting Golovkin once he's a free agent after one more fight with Top Rank and the contract is up. Could face GGG while he's a free agent before singing with Golden Boy.



My whole life and 2014 has been below average with big fights falling through Kovalev Stevenson most notably, probably GGG vs Chavez now, Ward MIA, Mikey Garcia inactive no Uchiyama or Gamboa, Provodnikov inactive, Thurman not getting to step up. Prospects are in a stall pattern, Champions not fighting, not having big fights, or not unifying, network and promotional disputes preventing the best fights from happening even though last year it seemed to work for the fans its run its course now. Its been garbage.

Agree with you. 2014 is really a dull year, mostly mismatched filled fights. If you're a fan of mismatches then this is your year.

[Dr Rumack]

Surely HBO can make this fight without Arum? Bob has nowhere else to go so they can take the chance of pissing him off you'd imagine.

[arraamis]

Don't blame him, he has seen the effect of his fathers life on him and he doesn't want to make the same mistake that he did.

Chavez Sr fought for so many years and ended up broke, because he didn't take care of his finances. Jr wants to retire rich and make sure his efforts are well paid.

Arum makes a ton of money off him, it doesn't matter how good people think he is or isn't, it's about what crowds he generates and people like to watch him fight.

That's the key!

It is Chavez that is generating the interest and the revenue. At this point in his career, he doesn't really need a dedicated promoter. He can negotiate the promotions out to whomever he think will best fit the card.

The era of promoters running and at the same time ruining fighter's careers and finances is over. It just taking much too long for some Boxer's to realize that the business model has changed and they need to adapt.

Cotto, Pacman, Floyd, Canelo, Wlad, to name only a few -- Are all in a position to go free-agent. But so far, only Floyd and Cotto have made the move and look at how much more money stays in their pocket and how much control they have in their fights.