The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Boxing Goat]

how can you compare losses to great fighters and at the end of the careers to losses in your prime to sub par competition?

do you do this on purpose?

Wlad is 38 and Ali had parkinsons already with 5 losses at this age.

Is Wlad still prime to you?

[ßringer]

No matter what Wladimir Klitschko does, there will always be people who believe he's no good.

He has three losses. But the #1 HW of all time, Muhammed Ali, has five losses.

Some of Wlad's opponents were not very good. But Ali, besides fighting good opposition, fought a lot of journeymen like Richard Dunn who were no better than Wlad's worst title defenses. He was knocked down by Chuck Wepner. He lost to a 6-0 Leon Spinks, who was KOed by Gerrie Coatzee in round one. Yet he's supposed to be the best HW of all time.

Jack Johnson has 11 losses, Max Schmeling has 10 (some to worse opponents than Wlad lost to, such as 47-loss Daniels and 37-39 Taylor). Walcott has 18 losses, Charles has 25. Yet some people cannot forgive Wlad's three losses, despite the excellent run he's had since then.

If Wladimir Klitschko were to somehow go back in time and beat prime Dempsey, prime Louis, prime Ali and prime Holmes, some people would still not respect him. Instead, they'd start ridiculing the fighters he beat and call them bums.

A hundred years ago some people refused to accept Jack Johnson as HW champion and just said said the division was no good at that time, because Johnson was black. Similarly, there are some people who refuse to believe that Wladimir Klitschko is a top ten ATG heavyweight because they feel the HW champ should be American and black.

It is futile to try and debate those who hate Wladimir. They will never change. It's like trying to convince a KKK member in 1910 to respect Jack Johnson.

Kudos, sir.

I haven't seen somebody martyred that hard since those Tibetan monks set themselves on fire back in China back in 2011.

The bolded part is all you need to read to understand how bias and ignorant this undeserving clown is.

It's not "bias", it's "biased", you ****ing idiot.

[ßringer]

It's not "bias", it's "biased", you ****ing idiot.

He meant that, too.

[BennyST]

Similarly, there are some people who refuse to believe that Wladimir Klitschko is a top ten ATG heavyweight because they feel the HW champ should be American and black.

It is futile to try and debate those who hate Wladimir. They will never change. It's like trying to convince a KKK member in 1910 to respect Jack Johnson.

It's hilarious when freedom comes out with lines like these. I can never tell if he's doing it deliberately or not.

[Boxing Goat]

Do some research.

Max Schmeling was KOed by journeymen several times before he fought Louis (including someone with a 0-0-1 opponent). Joe Louis, considered the #2 HW of all time next to Ali, wasn't at the end of his career when he was knocked out by Max Schmeling.

Ezzard Charles was beaten by journeymen in the early-to-mid part of his career.

Joe Walcott lost to Johnny Allen (11-15-1) and other journeymen long before he became HW champ.

Can you imagine Wlad having fought a guy with a 11-15 record now? Much less lose to the guy? The repercussions of such a fight even taking place would be astronomical*.

* The highlighted words are for the guy who thinks spelling means something on here.

[Boxing Goat]

It's not "bias", it's "biased", you ****ing idiot.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias

Here ya go sweetheart. Did I touch a nerve? Am I hitting home?

When one says a fighter got a gift decision, it obviously means they got a gift win. Stop trying to cover up a **** up and get on with the hatery.

The fact that you use words like "hatery" shows what a child you are.

Is not even a draw a face-saving gift when the guy was clearly outpointed?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias

Here ya go sweetheart. Did I touch a nerve? Am I hitting home?

You "touched a nerve" insofar as having to trawl through the posts of a guy who'd fail third grade English is touching a nerve.

I don't need a definition page on it - you do.

Yes, to have "bias" is what you're talking about... but you can't be "bias". Idiot.

[BennyST]

Wlad is 38 and Ali had parkinsons already with 5 losses at this age.

Is Wlad still prime to you?

This of course proves Wlads superiority.

Nothing to do with resume and the great fighters beaten....at 38 Ali had Parkinson's and five losses, while Wlad is still beating the likes of Jean Marc Mormeck and setting compuclinch records against Povetkin.

Wlad had only been knocked out three times, but Ali had five losses and Parkinson's. Do you hear?! He had Parkinson's!! probably deserving of it too for all this 'superior to Wlad' talk.